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    Posted: 17 January 2010 at 20:31

I have moved the mailsheet from the roof to the cockpit, using a solutions like the one in the 320. I ended up not monting a traveller, there are several reasons for that, one of them is that I can still have one if I am not happy with this improvment. But the main reason is that this made a good compromise in a boat both used for family sailing and races. Now we still can have the sheet on the roof when we like, it just takes a coupel of minutes to change. Just one sailtrip yet but it looks promissing... There are several problems racing or singelhanded with the mainsheet on the roof. Performance, it takes to long in and out in changing conditions, and on top of that, the sprayhood could not be layed down in the 350 with the mainsheet on the roof!!!

 
It is Selden blockes, with the ratio 1:6 and 1:12 on the fine tune. The fine tune I am sure is fully needed to make this work. There where not much wind when testing (12 knots appox) but it was nessasary to us the finetune 1:12, or else it was heavy...
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by bjoris - 17 January 2010 at 20:35
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I'm building a removable traveller. Maybe it brings you to an idea?
Removable traveller

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I do have a traveler on the roof of the cockpit. And I can even close the sprayhood.
 
You can see that there is a stainless steel piece and on top of it the traveler it self. The brand is Hold Nautos (which I do not like)
 
I attach a picture not on detail, but while sailing an there you can see, if any interested I can make some more close pictures and upload them.


Edited by Gran Onada - 18 January 2010 at 07:22
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This is also a solution http://www.smilysailing.dk/side9.html



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Hi,

The cockpit solution is by far better, even without a traveler, since one can really trim the main. Two improvements I suggest are :
SmileIncreasing the purchase of the fine tune to 1:24 by adding blocks.
Smileusing a thinner line (6-8mm)of different colour for the fine tune.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kirkelund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2010 at 16:00
Hi Steen

The solution from smilysailing looks really simple, but how do you control the main sheet (e.g. release it) when the block and cleats are mounted on the boom?

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Hi Ole.

If you know the system from the Danish boat Grinde youl'll know. It's very simple. Just flick the sheet and you easely ease the sheeting. The Grinde which was build in more than 400 ex have used this system for 35 years.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kirkelund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2010 at 18:11
Hi Steen

Thanks - and yes know the Grinde, but I never noticed the sheeting details. I think I will take a closer look Smile

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Thanks for the tip. Nice solutions Gran Onada and Gregor. The main reason for this improvment was easier handling alone and in races. We often do races doubelhande, eg. this Sailmakeren Doubelhanded, http://www.seilmagasinet.no/id/34126. We will take part for the second time this year. Last year we did use 46 hours, with just 4 hours pitstop at halfway... In the end you just get feed up with your neck under the sprayhood...! It was really windy conditons and we concluded not to do this again with the mainsheet on the rooftop:) So I am glad it is done now, but I still have not fixed a new point on the boom, I got the wrong parts... So thats is still to do.
 
Performance will also be better, but the best will ofcourse be a traveller. As you can see on the pictures I have been able to move the hook a bit forward comparing to where the traveller would have been placed, because of the hatch. This I hope will avoid the sheet to remove my chartplotterAngryWink
 
Panos, I have been thinking about having 1:24, it is really easy to get that but I`ll try with this 1:12 first. On the first test it seemed to be enhough. The line on the finetune is thinner but sadly the same color...


Edited by bjoris - 18 January 2010 at 23:49
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2014 at 06:38
bjoris, I am liked what you have done with your mainsheet and I want to do the same. I would like to know how successful it has been, I have a hanse 355. How did you secure the hinged pad eye to the cockpit floor I have the aft cabin under the floor. I would appreciate any photos of how you secured it.

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