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cptgood
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Hi Samuel,
I was thinking it over.. If you sail singlehanded , why don't you bring the forward strop connection, attached to a line, back to the cockpit simply passing it to a block at mast base? Then you only need a "choose yourself" fixed point to attach the line to in the cockpit. This will prevent you for going out to the bow which , in my opinion, could be a dangerous move in high sea.
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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2683 |
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I agree that going forward is not good but the forward strop needs to be bullet proof & it needs to be at a fixed point so I can just wind hard on the halyard without trying to balance downhaul & halyard. The strop keeps the sail forward & the alternative would have to have some means of holding the sail in the forward position. That means another mast aligner It would also have to be adjusted to the correct position each time it was set. Furthermore it would mean an additional line up the sail all the time. This would need to be gathered in every time I dropped the sail & it is hassle enough collecting the first & second reef lines. Especially so in choppy seas. I hoist & lower the sail dozens of times a year, but have only felt the need for a third reef a few times; so the hassle of going on deck is far outweighed by the hassle of a third line getting in the way. As for additional lines in the cockpit I might tell you that I have the option of 26 control lines in the cockpit already & I do not want anymore. Edited by samuel - 01 May 2018 at 07:49 |
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Ta'I Miti 2
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Hello all
I have a 3rd reef since last year on my 312 Did not use it till now but as from I have to take 2 reefs as from 25/30kn this is absolutely necessary 15kn 1 reef + jib 20kn 2 reefs + jib 25kn 2 reefs Did not sail more than 25 so far, but who knows ... Camille |
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Ta'I Miti 2
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When do you reef? These are the wind speed and the reef I take at close haul As from 15/ 16: reef 1 + jib As from 20: reef 2 + jib As from 25: reef 2 and half jib As from 30: reef 2 no jib As from 35: reef 3 My question is What are we supposed to do in higher wind? Thanks Camille |
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samuel
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You could sail under jib only. But the first thing is in a rising wind is not to get yourself in a position where you have to claw your way off a lee shore. That means that you do not have to sail hard to windward in the first place. However, I have sailed with 2 reefs, not 3, & a full jib (never reef it) fairly close hauled in winds of 35 knot occasionally gusting up to 44kts & been OK in the North sea (My wife will not agree about the "OK" and has not sailed since!!) It was only for 8 hours of an 18 hour trip & longer would have been very difficult. On a long keel boat you would heave too, but with a Hanse you cannot do that, so you do have to keep sailing, which means someone at the helm. Being single handed I have to rely on my Aeries which is good in high winds. A Raymarine AV100 would not cope . Well offshore one can start streaming warps. etc but in the area where I sail there is simply too much shipping & land is not far away so there is no room. Fortunately shelter is normally within 24 hours reach. So your options are really to reef right down & sail off the wind a bit & play the waves. If you drop everything & run under bare poles the boat will go like a scalded cat. I was taken ill once at night in heavy seas & the coastguard told the lifeboat that I was averaging 5.3 kts (under bare poles)
Edited by samuel - 24 September 2018 at 12:24 |
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Ta'I Miti 2
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These age the basics
Under jib only you 'll never go in the wind The main sail is the only sail allowing to go windward Did anyone ever sail in wind over 35? I sailed with 32 and it was like the end of the world I never had this feeling with other boats |
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Fendant
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Guys, are you talking true or apparent wind ?
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Andrew
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I have just recently put a forth reef in my main because it was over powered. I miss-use the outhaul for the first reef then reef 2 and 3 as usual and the forth will get exchanged with the second reef when needed. Andrew
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True wind for me
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