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Taylor View Drop Down

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    Posted: 20 January 2018 at 10:24
My sails are very much well used and looking a bit shabby. We have the normal self tacker and Main with only 2 reefs as original supplied by East Sails.

Our Genoa was made by a Pwllheli sail maker but the laminate has now started disintegrating on the leach due to UV degradation.

Has anybody recently had a new set of sails?

Who from?

Would you have 3 reefs rather than 2?

Would you have a fully battened main?

Would you have laminate, cruising laminate or something else?

I have heard of good reports of Steve Goacher and Mouse sails.

Hanse 301 Bluenote 11
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2018 at 08:51
Hi Taylor,

the pre-owner of my 301 has equipped her with some good new clothes form Elvström:

fully battened (4), Hydranet, 2 SL reefs and a 3rd jiffy (?correct) reef, 22,9 sqm
flying leech,

self tacker:
battened (1 full, 2 shorter), 13,2 sqm, Hydranet
jib hanks (no furler)

tri, 56,7 sqm of 0,9 oz Contender-Nylite, came with a blackbox sock

I am quite happy with these sails. The 3rd reef of the main is well working and the self tacker w/o furler is easy to trim.
The hydranet is quite stable with 320 g/sqm and is keeping the shape.
The genoa is an older model, I mainly use the ST, which gives enough power already at 12-15 knts of wind.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Martin&Rene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2018 at 11:05
Steve Goacher, of Windermere, had supplied me with sails for my Merlin Rocket dinghy which I sail near Manchester, so having bought a Hanse 341, I purchased my cruising chute and snuffer from him.  We had good discussions with him and whilst I decided to go for a sail towards the lower end of his recommendations, I would probably go for a larger sail now.  A good sail and the snuffer works well  

3 years ago, I bought a self tacker from him and again we had useful discussions on its shape and size, as it had to clear a radar reflector, and it was supplied with vertical battens.  It has been a good sail and the only problem has been that we have lost a vertical batten.  The batten pocket must have been just a bit to wide and the batten had managed to work its way around the velcro tape.  I have just put a larger end cap on the other battens and they are okay.  

Though I knew they would be more expensive than Goacher, I decided to go with Saturn Sails of Largs for my mainsail, as my boat is based there.  This was not a total success.  They said that size of main should have 5 full length battens in it, rather than 4 as the original, and then supplied and charged me for a main with 4 battens in it!  I reckon that I ordered it in November for an end of March delivery and when I rang up in April saying that I was coming up in a weeks time, they suddenly realised they had not started it and rushed it.  Having said all that, it is a very well made sail, looks good and I reckon I can carry a full main for a couple of more knots extra.

Therefore, happy to recommend Steve Goacher as his sails look good and are well made..

Details questions.
I would go with 3 reefs, as the common viewpoint seems to be to go down to third reef, before you even start to think about furling the jib.  This is how I rig up my third reef, so I can reef from the cockpit.

Cloth selection 
I think the jib is Challenge Marblehead.
I am not certain for the main.  I think it is a Bainbridge cloth and it is the slightly lighter version with reinforcing threads, so it looks like it is rip stop nylon.

I have stuck with fully battened mains, as I think it gives a good shape and means the main drops easily in to its stackpack.  The original main had Rutgerson roller cars on it, whilst I was a bit disappointed that the new Saturn main only has the standard slug based luff cars.  I though I was buying a premium product.  On a 301, you will probably be able to get away with either. I think most mains now are loose footed and I made sure both the head ans clew were secured to slugs with tape, as the original main had just used plastic slides at its head and they had failed on a windy gybe.
Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout & shallow keel, normally based in Scotland
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