400e - what extras / changes recommended

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   Hello,

I recently ordered a Hanse 400e and would like some advice on which standard items I should consider upgrading and which extras are recommended? I’m in Australia so there are local conditions that led me to choosing the 400e.

After reading some of the posts it appears that the standard prop may need to be replaced? Any other advice / recommendations? 

Thanks in advance! Happy sailing!

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MellowPuma Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote MellowPuma Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 400e - what extras / changes recommended Posted: 21 May 2006 at 03:27
	Hello, I recently ordered a Hanse 400e and would like some advice on which standard items I should consider upgrading and which extras are recommended? I’m in Australia so there are local conditions that led me to choosing the 400e. After reading some of the posts it appears that the standard prop may need to be replaced? Any other advice / recommendations? Thanks in advance! Happy sailing!

clayton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 27 December 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote clayton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 07:29
	We took delivery of a 400e two months ago in Sydney. There were a few small problems, but we are basically very happy with the boat. You are welcome to give me a call on 02 4272 6099 to discuss the boat and what I would do differently if I was ordering again. regards, Clayton
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taduka Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 04 December 2005 Location: Malta Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote taduka Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 13:53
	Clayton what sort of problem did you have? Shawn

MellowPuma Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote MellowPuma Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 15:18
	G’day Clayton, Thanks for the offer! I’m in San Francisco for a couple more weeks but will take you up on a chat when I return to Sydney. Perhaps we can start our own Mosman Bay Hanse club as - if I guess right - I think I can see your boat from my house? My direct email is kizzy38@hotmail.com. Cordially, Eddie

landlocked Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 12 April 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 472	Post Options Post Reply Quote landlocked Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 15:24
	If you are doing a lot of cruising and cooking on board you might consider replacing the oven. I haven't heard of any real problems with the standard (Techimpex) model, but it is a very basic oven. I bought a Force 10 which has a thermostat control and a broiler element and 3 burners. Hanse wouldn't change this out or give a decent credit for the standard one, so I swapped it out as soon as the boat arrived and will re-sell the techimpex model. Force 10 has two "european compact" models that fit -- a 2-burner and 3-burner. In retrospect I might have chosen the 2-burner instead since it balances better when swinging on the gimbals. I also HIGHLY recommend the electric halyard winch. I have only had a short "one-night-stand" on my partially-commissioned boat so far (last weekend). I was delighted with the boat as I'm sure you will be, and I will pass on any other comments once I get to know her better. The helm was light as a feather and with the self-tacking jib and electric winch you can sail with your finger-tips!

MellowPuma Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote MellowPuma Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 2006 at 14:31
	How big is the motor on the electric halyard winch? Thanks for the feedback, I’m looking forward to hearing more once you get fully commissioned! When will that be? Good luck, you should hopefully be in time for the Northern hemisphere summer. E. Edited by MellowPuma - 23 May 2006 at 14:33

landlocked Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 12 April 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 472	Post Options Post Reply Quote landlocked Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 2006 at 15:42
	I don't know the rating for the halyard winch motor, but it was added by my local broker so it may be different from the Hanse-supplied part anyway. I'll try to take a look on my next visit -- so far it seems about right for the task. "Kerkyra" is commissioned now, though there are still a few minor outstanding items to take care of. My wife and a couple of her friends are taking her from Vancouver to Victoria B.C. right now. In two more days I will meet her there and trade the boat for the kids, as I have entered her in the Swiftsure race this weekend (www.swiftsure.org). If the winds are good it will be a great 24-hour "shakedown", though I'll probably be too busy to check the winch motor rating :). Very exciting!

silversailor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 25 May 2005 Location: South Haven, MI Status: Offline Points: 1021	Post Options Post Reply Quote silversailor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 2006 at 01:18
	I purchased a Hanse 370e and, as you know, it is very similar to its big sister the 400. I agree totally with the recommendation for an electric halyard winch. It was one of the few factory options that I selected (opting to have all my electronics purchased and installed locally). It comes with an additional battery pack so there are 2 house batteries, one starter and one dedicated to the elec winch (and, if ordered, the windlass). Make sure the optional 120 or 220 is ordered. If not specifically ordered it will be omitted. I purchased a KIWI feathering prop and think it's one of my best decisions. Our boat manuvers flawlessly. When entering a boat slip, she stops on a dime. Powering forward is instantaneous and very controlled. I haven't cruised under power any distance but am confident that the KIWI will perform flawlessly. For my radar mount (4 KW dome) I chose a Waltz Sef Leveling mast mount witha sail guard. This allows the simplest of mounts with the ability to automatically level with the horizon. The guard will protect the self tacker as she sweeps by. I added the Simrad wind instrument, Raymarine 7002 AutoPilot (with a Jefa drive unit), Raymarine E80 display at the helm (Chartplotter/radar), stereo below with inside and outside speakers, 3 interior fans, etc. Wiring was fairly difficult after market so you should consider having Hanse do you instruments (assuming you like them on the pedestal... I don't), AP (their Simrad unit is a good one), stereo and speakers. Most important, enjoy the planning and dreaming process.
	Silversailor South Haven, MI USA S/V Legacy 2010 Andrews 28

bkyachts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 24 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote bkyachts Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 June 2006 at 19:28
	An option to mounting the Radar on the mast! This is the Garhuaer post mounted on the left side of the transom. While it does not give you the hieght of a mast mount it is out of the way and has the manual radome leveling feature. The antenna loop is a nice feature and has the GPS & Sirius ant. This installation has the outboard motor lift which is an option. Another option we have found to be effective is the Strong Track on the mainsail. It makes hoisting the main very easy if you don't nave an electric winch and it drops very fast. Edited by bkyachts - 28 June 2006 at 19:32

landlocked Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 12 April 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 472	Post Options Post Reply Quote landlocked Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 June 2006 at 23:48
	I think the separate radar mast is worth considering. I've attached a photo showing our installation. It hadn't occurred to me before-hand, but when mounting on the mast it has to go above the sheave for the jib-sheet, and since our deck light is just above that it has to go even higher to be above the light. I'd rather it wasn't so high. As for the GPS and Satellite Radio antenna, I'm happy with their locations. The GPS radome is mounted directly on aft port corner of the deck -- no exposed cables and still gets a fairly clear view of the sky. I stuffed a Sirius satellite radio between the cabin top and the headliner right above the electronics cabinet -- this keeps the cable short and the antenna protected, with only a fairly thin layer of fiberglass above it (look for an area with a fair bit of light shining through).



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