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   Hi There,I am a new member looking to buy a Hanse 400e or the 43
I cannot makeup my mind to wait or get a 400e now.Even though the season in the UK is drawing in fast>!  Reading some items "most" seem happy with the 400?!  I am thinking it may be best to wait.
your comments welcomed.
thanks.
Terry

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Terry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 04 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote Terry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 400e Posted: 04 August 2006 at 08:48
	Hi There,I am a new member looking to buy a Hanse 400e or the 43 I cannot makeup my mind to wait or get a 400e now.Even though the season in the UK is drawing in fast>! Reading some items "most" seem happy with the 400?! I am thinking it may be best to wait. your comments welcomed. thanks. Terry

Steve Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 03 October 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 August 2006 at 22:20
	My view is it really depends on what you want it for. we were looking for something that would let us do some blue water cruising. So far the 400e is shaping up well, though it needed increased fuel storage, water-maker and general storage. I'm happy that we seem to have adapted it for that use, though so far we've just been across the channel! But if you're looking for something to race round the cans you would certainly fit it out differently. If the 430 had been available when I ordered I might have been tempted for the extra space. What I would advise is to order well in advance of when you want it. Mine was 3 months late, which might be exceptional, but if you have the chance to order early, I would.
	Steve

colincooper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 October 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 562	Post Options Post Reply Quote colincooper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2006 at 09:25
	Steve, We would be interested to hear how you have fitted her out for blue water cruising. Where did you add the extra fuel? Where did you put in the extra stowage? This could make a new thread "Blue Water Modifications".
	Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)

Terry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 04 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote Terry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2006 at 09:38
	Steve many thanks for that ,we will not be racing arnd the cans ,it will be for the West Country initially ,Then popping accross the Channel. I think I may just wait for the 430 though thinking on the same lines. Terry

peio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 05 August 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote peio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2006 at 11:38
	good envening I am Hanse dealer in BASQUE COUNTRY on tah atlantic coast in the south off france . If you want , we have now on opportuniti with a HANSE 400 imediately disponible . If you want the inventary off this boat , and the odfeert we can do , you can answer this mail. Thank you PEIO

Popeye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 12 September 2005 Location: Mongolia Status: Offline Points: 322	Post Options Post Reply Quote Popeye Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2006 at 22:24
	Here my 50 pence worth.... My current boat is a 370, and thinking into the future (i.e. my next boat) then my choice would easily be the 430. Better fore and aft-cabins being the main reasons. And I agree to ordering well in advance of when you need her, my boat was also 3 months delayed. Some of that is due to teething problems in the start of a new model, and some is due to extreme order situation, and apparently Hanse and their dealers trading build slots to suit the markets / seasons, and "who shouts the loudest".
	Popeye the sailorman

Rubato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 12 July 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1791	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rubato Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 August 2006 at 03:16
	Terry, Couple of data points - I ordered a 400 at the end of June, factory finish date is said to be 17 November and then transit time to west coast of Canada puts delivery in Jan/Feb. You don't have the delivery issue but it's basically a 5 month wait. Now, is the 430 even available yet? web site is still saying available summer 2006. Well, sad to say, but there isn't that much summer left! So in the mean time perhaps the wait list for that baby is growing and growing. Delivery could be a lot longer than the 400. To state the obvious, there is the price - but not just the initial cost but every sail is more, etc.... Chatting with my broker we guessed at close to 80-100K Canadian more for the 430 once fully outfitted. Guess that's in the in the 40K+ pounds. I stuck with the 400 order. Anyone know when the 430s will start popping out and what the wait is? Steve

Terry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 04 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote Terry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 August 2006 at 18:20
	Steve thanks for that,I do think I shall wait for the 430,I am not in a rush and I am going to continue to look at other Yachts as well. I am noticing on this site there are quite a few niggles on many of the Yachts which should have been dealt with by the manufacturer.!! I have to say I like the look of the Elan impression 43 as well.?? Terry

Rubato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 12 July 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1791	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rubato Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 August 2006 at 19:30
	Terry, You definitely have more room in the 430. Just looked at Elan, we don't have a dealer network for them so I hadn't considered it. Nice looking yacht! More traditionally finished than the Hanse, I would say. From my brief look, the Impression line appears more cruise oriented than the regular Elan line. Good luck, it's always part of the run researching and trying to decide!! Cheers Steve

Rubato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 12 July 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1791	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rubato Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 August 2006 at 04:28
	Was speaking with my dealer this afternoon. Apparently the introduction for the 430 will be the Hamburg (?) show in the fall. Pricing and options are now out.... It's priced about $60K US above the 400 with many items as standard - epoxy, second head, etc.... Steve



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