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John Allison View Drop Down
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Allison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 August 2006 at 11:51

Hi Guys,

If its cruising you plan simply having a second head makes lots of sense.  More and more countries are imposing holding tank regulations - and with only one head switched to the holding tank and storing both liquids and solids means it can fill up FAST!

Finding a pump out place or even getting out of an achorage / marina to empty a full tank is an inconvenience.

Having two heads, one switched and used for solid jobbies, and the other open and allowing liquid stuff to exit - means you extend the period before you need to dump out.

Seems a minor point - but usually not considered in advance.

JOHN

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Popeye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2006 at 09:28

Brilliant description ... "solid jobbies" !!

I assume that non-solid jobbies go into the other head then .....

Popeye the sailorman
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote leemind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 August 2006 at 17:08
Originally posted by Terry Terry wrote:

I am noticing on this site there are quite a few niggles on many of the Yachts which should have been dealt with by the manufacturer.!!


Almost by definition, that is all you will tend to get on any internet forum like this, whether it be boats, cars or computers. 

No-one (on a forum like this - blogs excepted) puts up a post just to say they had a wonderful sail and everything is perfect. Especially us Brits that like to moan so much :-)

In almost every other owners forum that I know, it is problems being aired (espcially some of the computer ones...) looking for people who have solutions.

Something as semi-custom and hand built as a yacht will always have niggles... ever owned a TVR???

Go for it, I am sure you won't be disappointed.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote landlocked Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2006 at 15:08

3 more feet, 2 wheels and a second head for $60k seems pretty good.  We were very keen on the 430 but the wait seemed indefinite a year ago (hasn't changed much!) so we bought a 400.  

Ours is a 3 cabin layout with 2 heads.  The added galley space you get with the 430 would be nice.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Terry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 10:14

I think I shall wait for the 430e it seems the best idea.

I was going for the 400 which I am sure is a great Yacht??!!

I may have to wait a while but I am not in need at mom and also need to sell my boat first.

Terry

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Iíve installed and serviced many autopilots on boats.  Most of them power boats but the major components are the same.  When I saw pictures of the Raymarine rudder feedback unit being installed in what is potentially a wet area I didnít feel comfortable with it. 

What you see in the photos below is my solution on the 400e.  Iím not sure which other boats this would apply to but Iím convinced that putting it in the much safer and drier area in the lazerette is the way to go. 







You can see in the bottom photo that I took advantage of the bolts coming down from the Jefa drive installation to zip tie the data wire from the feedback unit.

George




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This is the Edson outboard motor mount in place.



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This is a view of the new taller dodger/bimini.  Carlos and Maria worked this out as much better suited to thier needs.  You can also see the wind generator.  I've taken advantage of the wind generator brace to mount the GPS antenna.  I'll try and get some better photos of that soon. 



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This is what we worked out for the nav display.  It can swing around backwards for those times when you are in poor weather, want to be tucked up under the dodger and still be able to view the display.  Also Maria would not have been able to see over the thing if it were mounted like on this 37 that was next to us.



Standing at the helm one can still see the full display in front if you prefer it there.  Also the display is removed and stowed below, the orriginal helm cover still fits. 



It is possible to make this run with the radar cable without making any new holes in the boat except where it exits the chase in the area hidden under the head liner.  It's not easy, but it is possible. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeLuke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 December 2006 at 19:17
George,
 
Ahh... now that 370e Nav Station looks familiar... but then again.... its mine!!! I though that blue hull looked a little familar in you upper picture. I like your 400 pictures and a good idea on your RayMarine display. I was thinking about using this same approach before I had mine fix mounted to the binnicale (less chance of damage in rough water). I decide to use a two display approach, a small one at the steering wheel and a larger one at the cabin nav-station. The combination works well for comfort and use. With Raymarine's SeaTalk it is easy to have all units work together. "Stella Maris" (the 370e displayed above) made the 17 mile trek to Herrington Harbor two weeks ago for winter storage. The JEFA autopilot worked great! Strong unit and accurate, just point the way points and let the boat go. I see you added the outboard on the back since I saw your boat. Where are you planning to put the Dingy? I have not decided yet if I want of put on the transom or somewhere else. Well its good to see the 400e is almost ready for Annapolis departure. Hope all works well down south. If you want, feel free to contact me at michael.luke1@verizon.net. Best regards,
 
Mike
 
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