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Pzucchel
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Joined: 13 March 2020 Location: floating Status: Offline Points: 659 |
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Posted: 30 August 2020 at 16:19 |
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Hi Rick,
this is a possible configuration. as you can see, the 784W layout has quite a number of dead space, maybe with something custom it's possible to expand it. ![]() You can see the deck configuration for a 435...it may actually add a coupe hundreds watts, i will ask. Do you have any detailed drawings of the deck with dimensions? ![]() |
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Wayne's World
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Joined: 18 July 2012 Location: Cruising Status: Offline Points: 1434 |
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Posted: 30 August 2020 at 16:38 |
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We have resisted adding solar for a long time buy are finally succumb and soon will have a SS arch fitted over the transom aft of the back stay. We will be about to fit 2 x 360W hard panels across the boat and a 305W panel running across the boat between the back stay fixed to the same arch. We will have 3 MPPT controllers. This will give us just over 1000W and the least amount of shading on the panels. Our normal power consumption is about 250AH per day plus say 30AH for water making so close to 300AH a day. So the 1000W given a good day should just meet out needs. We will still need to run the generator for less than one hour on most days to run the dive compressor and /or washing machine.
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Wayne W
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S&J
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Joined: 30 August 2014 Location: Perth WA / Med Status: Offline Points: 1371 |
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Posted: 30 August 2020 at 17:27 |
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I believe these are 2 x 65W on each side so 260W in total. On a 455. There is a detailed post elsewhere.
[Corrected 2 per side not 3] Edited by S&J - 01 September 2020 at 21:47 |
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Black Diamond
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Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275 |
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Posted: 31 August 2020 at 00:49 |
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Bill P just did this (custom solar over the halyard/sheet tunnels) to his boat (Reach, a Hanse 455). His looks like this. I think he said that both sides gave more than 280W (not bad when you add it to the bimini). ![]() I found 700W on the bimini to be enough for now.. I'll wait til the panels get more power out of the same footprint and upgrade. There should be a deck diagram doc (PDF format) similar to this for your boat. Mine is a 575, but for each boat there should be a drawing with hard points and other information. ![]() Hope this helps... Edited by Black Diamond - 31 August 2020 at 02:37 |
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Rick
S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI |
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 01 September 2020 at 18:44 |
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Thanks black diamond, I have asked hanse but they finally sent the distributor the same drawings already available on the original sd card... The drawings don't contain any dimensional drawings for the t-top, too bad I will go and measure on-site... Thanks anyway,
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cwetto
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Joined: 15 June 2009 Location: sailing Med Status: Offline Points: 127 |
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Posted: 09 September 2020 at 16:39 |
I must first admit that I am neither a globe trotter nor the owner of a 575 or 588. But cruising mediterranean on long summers, costal and some offshore, mainly with my wife and friends occasionaly, on slightly smaller Hanse. As others already mentioned, 98% of boats cruising around are mass production boats. Hanse probably on above average quality, but still ABW. Maybe older H models and some in epoxy version are better build (thats why discountinued - to expensive to target price).
But any way, bigger H models are more that suitable for offshore cruising. Choose simpel life with electric winches, electronic, bow thruster, genset, etc. Its all about the equipment on board which could brake. Forget the Hanse support, choose a good dealer, get to know your boat and buy enough spare parts. Shore support from your dealer which knows your boat can make your life much easier :) |
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Cwetto
Hanse 540e 2007, sailing Med |
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Barnacle_Bill
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Joined: 26 December 2020 Location: Brunswick, GA Status: Offline Points: 45 |
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Posted: 17 July 2023 at 03:31 |
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I know this post is over 3 years old, but as owner of a 588 with commissioning Spring 2022, I would say emphatically yes, having picked up the boat at at the factory and sailed the Baltic sea, English channel, Bay of Biscay, the 5000 foot water not the 500 foot water, & down to the Mediterranean & then across to the Caribbean and then to Florida last November. While indeed it is German engineering, with COVID and the recall of several hundred workers back to Ukraine to fight that war, it is certainly not German installation . I had over 20 quality control issues which required the boat to be grounded for about 2 months in England, which thankfully has a great cadre of workers and help , including from inspiration marine In Southampton, who were not our dealer, but did provide timely advice. The problem with the factory and the company leadership is a tendency to point fingers at the supplier. If I bought a Mercedes or Ferrand and they pointed a finger at the battery manufacturer or the sound system manufacture, instead of taking ownership for the overall product, then I'm sure customers would shy away from that automobile dealership. Suffice it to say that once we had large system problems ironed out, such as the the Jeffa steering chain jumping for steering because of poor installation and the engine propeller shaft almost coming out because it was not put under proper pressure at the factory and Selden electric main mast furling motor issues, then the boat worked out very nicely. Although the marketing video on the website shows a 588 without a T-top, sailing in blue skies in the Adriatic, having a T-top with the retractable Bimini is the ideal set-up. Hsving solar panels on top of that T top, providing about 700W also ideal. We never got wet during any of the seas that I mentioned, despite 30-foot swells off the coast of France and 35 -knot winds off of Brighton England and into the straits of Gibraltar. There are no lanyards on the bow thrusters as was written in a previous post. The 5 second or so thermal time out is a bit annoying, especially with the Stern thruster. But, all in all, especially for the price, it is a worthwhile boat, given the competition. Anyway, my 2 cents...
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 19 July 2023 at 09:34 |
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Hello everybody, my two cents.
I've done about 24,000km in the last 2 years, two Atlantic crossings, in my 588. I think any boat has pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. I had started my trip thinking that, as soon as I would have seen the perfect boat improving the 588, I may have sold it and bought the new one... After having seen many, many boats I am still with my 588, and happy with it.. I was tempted by the amel ketch, the oyster 595...but it's not all gold what shines: they have their limitations too. And you won't find a large cockpit as protected as the 588 version with the t-top. This is a real and major advantage on a long trip, in bad weather and under the sun. Reliability and maintenance : you need to know your boat well, and treat it accordingly.I have recently met with the designer of the fcl sails, that told me that his design constraints were cost and coastal sailing with high performance. For a world trip he would definitely go with Polyester and dyneema design that would last forever (my fcl are delaminated and going for the last season after 6 years, he was actually surprised they lasted up to now... ). In my opinion the weak point of some 588 is the quadrant and the autopilot - if you have the lewmar configuration. See threads here... For a bluewater use i would definitely add some non standard accessories (lithium batteries, solar panels, boom preventer to mention few). Despite our large size windows, they have behaved very well in seas where other boats had window failures, so I would definitely give a big "green light" on the hull construction. I would conclude by saying I never sailed at high latitudes and I have no idea on what's needed there....
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Mainer
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Posted: 08 August 2023 at 17:43 |
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Hi Pzucchel,
I saw in another post that you had the Walder boom brake installed. Has it worked well for you? We have the FurlerBoom boom and I’m wondering whether it’s compatible with the Walder brake (and how to rig the lines without interfering with the main sheet). |
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mglonnro
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Posted: 08 August 2023 at 20:31 |
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Wow, what elaborate and brilliant comments in this thread! Thank you all, from me as well.
We have the 531 now but are half-actively scanning the market for 575s. I, too, like the 575 better than the 588 due to the layout. It will be interesting to see the bigger models of the newest generation.
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