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Pzucchel
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Posted: 08 August 2023 at 21:18 |
I cannot actually reply since I don't know the furler boom differences. But I wouldn't go onto any ocean without the brake. I would suggest you to contact them at info@walderweb.com, they are very proactive and professional.
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 08 August 2023 at 21:23 |
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Adding to this thread, I noticed that nobody had mentioned a Jordan series drogue.
I have one, but fortunately I never used it. However, I think it's a must-have for serious Travelling, including good training on its deployment and recovery. Sometimes, accessories for and equipment are as important as the hull. I also have a 4-stroke honda thermal pump that can aspirate 200l/min. It is a recent requirement of the world arc, and the reason for it was real life experience....
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boomjack
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 09:07 |
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"Hello everybody, my two cents.
I've done about 24,000km in the last 2 years, two Atlantic crossings, in my 588. I think any boat has pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. I had started my trip thinking that, as soon as I would have seen the perfect boat improving the 588, I may have sold it and bought the new one... After having seen many, many boats I am still with my 588, and happy with it.. I was tempted by the amel ketch, the oyster 595...but it's not... "Hi everyone, For the fourth time in 9 years, I will have to replace my batteries bank. The last one lated only 18 months , Zenith brand 165 amp. I want to go to lithium now and the shipyard told me that there is nothing else to do than 2 lithium a bms and adjusting the charger inverter. My question is : For those owning a 575 with the same layout as mine, 4X 165 AGM, 550 din, no solar, and having done this upgrade, does it sound correct? All advice will be appreciated... Thanks
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 13:00 |
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I have two Mastervolt batteries for 10kWh on my 588. They have their own bms, and Mastervolt explained me how to modify the factory installed charger inverter. No issues after two years, it's a dream.....
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boomjack
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 14:18 |
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Ok great, Thanks for your help!
I confirm the order this PM. good sailing! |
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Black Diamond
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Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275 |
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 14:19 |
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I ended up replacing the 4x165AH that came with the boat with “super cycle” deep discharge batteries While only 125AH each (to fit the same space) they have more accessible AH A 200AH battery that drops to 11V when 50% SOC has only 100AH accessible These carry 12V well under 50% so they actually have more accessible AH I liked it so much I expanded the bank forward under the settee and now have 6 batteries. I have 750W of solar on my bimini with 4 Victron controllers generating up to 50Amps into the batteries
Batteries are like anchors It will generate spirited discussion. Me? I didnt want to go lithium as so many other things had to change as well This works well for us |
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boomjack
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 17:34 |
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Hi Rick,
Thanks for your advice as well and yes I understand your point of vue, and I am certain it works well, but I believe I should give a try to these lithium, at this point it becomes a philosophical issue....
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 18:21 |
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With the Mastervolt batteries I didn't have to change anything... Apart from the batteries...
They have constant voltage, they can charge to 100% and they can discharge to zero percent without damages, they are very safe and significant more capacity... One night I was hearing a boat on Marseilles radio that had lead acid batteries that were boiling... The control said they couldn't advice, and different other boats stepped in by giving the solution : "throw them outboard". At least with lithium batteries it will be easier because they're also significantly lighter... 🤣 🤭🫣 |
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Posted: 10 August 2023 at 22:01 |
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Thought I’d chime in here. Last year I went to lithium after my factory bank finally called it quits. I installed 1500 amp hours of lithium in parallel with 300 amp hours of AGM. The lithium will maintain 13 volts in use and thus keep the AGM topped off. The AGM provides backup should the BMS units cut out…the alternator will always see a load. Also the AGM has better high current discharge than lithium, so it will supplement at high demand. The BMS units on the my lithium bank are very versatile and bullet proof. Over current protect, overcharge cutoff, low voltage cutoff. My 180 Volvo alternator has no problem with them and the lithium bank is happy. The BMS with stop charging at 95 percent, at which time the AGM provides the load on the alternator. My AC chargers provide 200 amps and will go to 13.8 volts when the bank is charged. Again, charge current is cut off by the BMS anyway. The lithiums will take full charge current all the way to 95 percent making recharging a much faster process. They will provide 90 percent usable capacity, and they will show 13 volts steady until the very end. I didn’t change anything in the charging systems…just dropped them in. I researched the suppliers extensively and chose mine based on the BMS characteristics, company service, and the price was 1/3 of European brands. Yes, they are Chinese, but most cells used globally are made there anyway. I have almost endless power storage and can recharge at 350 amps per hour with engine and genny although my casual engine use is enough most of the time.
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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY |
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