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    Posted: 02 April 2025 at 11:46
Has anyone fitted a rocna style Manson 20 kg Supreme Anchor? 
How did it fit under the the anchor chain opening in the anchor well hatch?
And the locking pin on the bow roller?
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I got a 20Kg Manson Supreme to fit the standard Hanse roller on my late 2005 build 400e. I fitted the Mantus Anchor Mate with it so that the Manson fitted really snuggly. The 2 in combination are great. The Manson has been really solid in a variety of seabeds and the Anchor Mate holds it tightly when underway.  If you haven’t seen the Anchor Mate before then try this link 


The anchor chain still follows the same path and fits under the hatch cutout as before. The anchor retaining pin won’t fit, however a simple strop will restrain the anchor well when used alongside the Anchor Mate. 

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Edited by Mark_J1 - 02 April 2025 at 21:19
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Thanks Mark, and the shaft then does not extend under the anchor hatch cover but is well  secured?
What did you do about the anchor retaining pin on the bow roller?
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Simply pulling the anchor in tight with the windlass will hold it tight against the anchor mate ‘pad’.  It doesn’t move at all. not even in heavy seas. However, I do put a strop over the anchor shank to be doubly sure. You can remove the anchor pin easily enough by sliding out the middle of the roller extrusion. Mines been in the chart table ever since I set the Manson up just in case I have to go back to the Delta at some point. 

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I like Mark's advice about just pulling the anchor tight and using a strop.  For consideration is Rocna's advice on using a restraining pin on such a type of anchor as the Rocna and Manson.  It might not apply to everyone's type of sailing but I've certainly been smashed hard on the bow several times, bending the flimsy roller that the cost-cutting dept in Hanse thought was suitable for a Cat A boat.  In contrast though the damage a swinging anchor can cause in a seaway can be huge; my berth-mate's Rassy cost over £1500 to repair after beating itself up over Lyme Bay.

I pull my anchor tight and use a chain-strop, with a loose soft-shackle where a retaining pin might otherwise be when going offshore.  



Edited by Ratbasher - 05 April 2025 at 08:21
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Hey Mark,

Do you have a photo and description of the anchor stop you have fitted?
Did you choose port or starboard aspect?
They have various patterns and I have to buy mine online .
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Brian - when I went to buy the Anchor Mate there was no stock of my preferred LH solution. In the end as I had a passage imminent I got a RH version. It fits just fine. So I would say it really doesn’t matter which version you go for.  The link in my earlier post above will give you basics on the Anchot Mate.  I’ll see if I can hunt photos of it in place for you. 

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You may have to expand your screen to get all 4 photos below. Should give an idea though. Excuse the ropes strop. That’s a temporary stand-in :)




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I have built a stop at the top of my 370 and then a safety pin at the back 
It is so strong that you can also use the anchor as a step 
Anchor is a Rocnar Vucan 20kg


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Also using  a 20kg Rocna Vulcan on 400e.

To fix the anchor in situ I drilled a hole through the roller structure near the back, positioned so a quick release ball pin goes through both side plates and the eye of the anchor just in front of the  D-shackle.  Relatively easy to insert and withdraw the pin, which is attached to a small rope lanyard so it can't fall overboard.

However for club racing we have to remove the anchor from the bow roller.
With the pin still engaged I feed about 3m of chain into front part of locker, then remove the pin while holding the anchor, and lift anchor over the pulpit rail and put it in the anchor locker  behind the windlass. That relocation is quite physical if done solo I will admit.

The chain then is adjusted so it goes from windlass over the bow roller, then  underneath it, leading back to pulpit rail with a small tie to keep it in position  and down into locker entry beside the outgoing chain.
Finally and excess chain is taken up on windlass,  but not tight.

To deploy it is a quick and simple matter to undo the chain tie on pulpit, lift anchor out of the locker and throw it over the pulpit. This means the chain is ready to run through bow roller, and the anchor can either be deployed with the windlass or retrieved into normal cruising mode.

For ocean  passages the anchor is relocated to the locker just like for club racing so it  isn't knocked around in heavy seas.

If the anchor is too heavy  it can be listed off the roller and over the pulpit using the spinnaker halyard  (provided you have an assistant).


Edited by DJgun - 10 May 2025 at 07:47
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