myHanse.com - Hanse Yacht Owners Website myHanse.com - Hanse Yacht Owners Website myHanse.com - Hanse Yacht Owners Website myHanse.com - Hanse Yacht Owners Website

Welcome to myHanse.com the forum for Hanse Yachts owners throughout the world.

Forum Home Forum Home > General > Chit Chat
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Comment on Closure of Osmosis on Hanse
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Comment on Closure of Osmosis on Hanse

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
Stella*Nova View Drop Down
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
Avatar

Joined: 25 January 2004
Location: Lelystad / NL
Status: Offline
Points: 776
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stella*Nova Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Comment on Closure of Osmosis on Hanse
    Posted: 18 November 2004 at 16:21

Quote Hi Guys,

I don't want this to become a personal attack on anyone so I am going to close the thread.  (I know it probably will not but I would like to keep the forum on topic).

Thanks,

Jonathan
Webmaster

 

Its hard for me to believe what is happening here. Because two or three people are not agreeing in their opinion you close this topic?

I agree there should be no personal attacks to nobody but in that case I don't see something like that. Rob and Mark asked if the bad story of A.O. has happen in reality. I think this question should be OK in a forum like that which is more or less anonymous. (This should be nothing against the user Anxious Owner - its a general question.)

But, Jonathan, its not a good way to take that as a reason to close that topic. We all are democratic and if anyone has another position - lets discuss about, not stopping discussion, thats the wrong way.

What do the other forum users think about?



Edited by Stella*Nova
BR Ralf, Ex. 'a mare' H370
Back to Top
Muscadet View Drop Down
Captain
Captain
Avatar

Joined: 05 July 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 173
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Muscadet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2004 at 16:31

Ralf

I agree. In particular this topic is fundamental to all of us and I'm sure we would all like to follow it to its conclusion.

Regards

Alan 

Back to Top
Martijn View Drop Down
Commander
Commander
Avatar

Joined: 06 May 2004
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 118
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Martijn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2004 at 18:17

Hi there,

I agree also.

If we discuss about something the topic should not been closed because there are some negative items in it. Thats my opinion.

greetings,

Martijn "NO FEAR"

 

 

Back to Top
tom h View Drop Down
Sub Lieutenant
Sub Lieutenant
Avatar

Joined: 20 February 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tom h Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2004 at 19:02

Sorry guys - I disagree.  While I think it is worthwhile and educational to keep the topic open, it is not our choice.

This forum is, for me, a great resource to learn about Hanse.  It is, however, not a democracy.  If the webmaster wants a topic closed, for any or no reason, he can certainly do it.  It's his site, not ours.

Regarding osmosis - I have seen no sign on my boat, but don't consider it a huge problem.  I have had the problem on other boats in the past.  If it is caught early it is no big deal to fix.  Unless I had a very severe problem and could point to a clear defect, I wouldn't even consider making a warranty claim on it - more hassle with fighting the manufacturer/dealer than just simply fixing the problem.

 

Back to Top
Martijn View Drop Down
Commander
Commander
Avatar

Joined: 06 May 2004
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 118
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Martijn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2004 at 22:36

Hi Tom,

well everybody has his own opinion about this. And that is good.

And your right, it seems to be that it is not a democracy and that is not so nice. I think you must say what you want but always respect the other. Than there is no problem at all.

osmosis:

I think it is not smart when you have warranty you fixed it yourself even when there are only some spots. Always tell the distributor the problem, because when you do it by your self mostly the warranty drops.

Greetings,

Martijn "NO FEAR"

Back to Top
Webmaster View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 25 January 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 247
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Webmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2004 at 08:27

Stella,

The reason I closed the topic was exactly because it was going off topic! Here is yet another example of it.. This thread has started with nothing to do about Hanse Yachts or about owning a Hanse but more how this website is run.

This is exactly what I did not want to happen on the other thread. I want myHanse to be focused on owning a Hanse not on what people think about each other.

I felt that the thread had come to an end and that when AO got any further updates he would start a new thread and we can all discuss. I did not want to go into the personal "why did you not tell us..." and "I can not believe you thought that I was....". This it Not what this site is about. I am more than happy for people to talk about this subject BUT it should not get personal.

Jonathan
Webmaster

Back to Top
Naddura View Drop Down
Commander
Commander
Avatar

Joined: 08 March 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 93
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Naddura Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2004 at 10:14

I was dismayed to see the topic raised by "anxious owner" censored by Hanse. Make no mistake about it that is what has happened. Owners from six countries made contributions to this debate including one from the lucrative American market.

This heavy handed act by Hanse will not douse, but fuel the fire because the primary concern is not about personalities or silly comments but AFTER SALES SERVICE.

As one owner pointed out osmosis is not a problem peculiar to Hanse, X Yachts had an incidence of osmosis and sorted it out with no costs incurred by the owner, this is the level of service I would expect from Hanse if all the necessary conditions had been met.

Lastly how dare this spokesperson employed by Hanse suggest that owners cannot have an open and honest debate. We have invested large quantities of money in Hanse yachts and we can do without smoke screens being thrown up trying to detract from the after sales service being offered by Hanse.

CONTINUE DEBATING

Richard

Back to Top
Stella*Nova View Drop Down
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
Avatar

Joined: 25 January 2004
Location: Lelystad / NL
Status: Offline
Points: 776
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stella*Nova Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2004 at 10:50

Moving a topic is one thing but changing the name of this topic I cannot accept. The original name was

"Osmosis on Hanse II"

My question now is? Is that censorship? If so I will leave this forum directly. Please rename this topic in the original Name showns above.

BR Ralf, Ex. 'a mare' H370
Back to Top
Geir R View Drop Down
Lieutenant
Lieutenant


Joined: 26 August 2004
Location: Norway
Status: Offline
Points: 23
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Geir R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:12

 

Let's not get carried away.

I have to agree with the webmaster on this. It is understandable that he moves this type of discussion away from "Osmosis on Hanse" and into "Chit chat". Please note that he moved it and did not erase it. In my mind this discussion is about "Comments on closure of......." and not a discussion about the problem in hand.

Censorship? If they did anything of the sort, they would have removed the thread and not closed it. In fact, the webmaster invited us to start a new thread as soon as we had anything new on this matter.

Let us keep up the high level of discussion under each thread. If you want to discuss other matters - simply open a new thread.

Geir



Edited by Geir R
Back to Top
Webmaster View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 25 January 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 247
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Webmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:30

Stella,

Thanks for your PM. I am more than happy for you to start a new topic about Osmosis in the forum BUT that was not what this thread was talking about. I changed the subject of it as it was not correct and I presumed that you would start a new thread with the Osmosis topic and did not want to get it confused. That is why I added to the title.

It was ment as housekeeping and not cencorship.

Hope this explains why and we can get back onto Yacht things...



Edited by Webmaster
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.06
Copyright ©2001-2023 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.117 seconds.

Links : www.hanseyachts.co.uk www.hanseyachts.com www.fjordboats.co.uk www.dehler.co.uk www.varianta.co.uk