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Stella*Nova
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Topic: Comment on Closure of Osmosis on HansePosted: 18 November 2004 at 16:21 |
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Its hard for me to believe what is happening here. Because two or three people are not agreeing in their opinion you close this topic? I agree there should be no personal attacks to nobody but in that case I don't see something like that. Rob and Mark asked if the bad story of A.O. has happen in reality. I think this question should be OK in a forum like that which is more or less anonymous. (This should be nothing against the user Anxious Owner - its a general question.) But, Jonathan, its not a good way to take that as a reason to close that topic. We all are democratic and if anyone has another position - lets discuss about, not stopping discussion, thats the wrong way. What do the other forum users think about? Edited by Stella*Nova |
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Muscadet
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Posted: 18 November 2004 at 16:31 |
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Ralf I agree. In particular this topic is fundamental to all of us and I'm sure we would all like to follow it to its conclusion. Regards Alan |
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Martijn
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Posted: 18 November 2004 at 18:17 |
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Hi there, I agree also. If we discuss about something the topic should not been closed because there are some negative items in it. Thats my opinion. greetings, Martijn "NO FEAR"
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tom h
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Posted: 18 November 2004 at 19:02 |
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Sorry guys - I disagree. While I think it is worthwhile and educational to keep the topic open, it is not our choice. This forum is, for me, a great resource to learn about Hanse. It is, however, not a democracy. If the webmaster wants a topic closed, for any or no reason, he can certainly do it. It's his site, not ours. Regarding osmosis - I have seen no sign on my boat, but don't consider it a huge problem. I have had the problem on other boats in the past. If it is caught early it is no big deal to fix. Unless I had a very severe problem and could point to a clear defect, I wouldn't even consider making a warranty claim on it - more hassle with fighting the manufacturer/dealer than just simply fixing the problem.
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Martijn
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Posted: 18 November 2004 at 22:36 |
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Hi Tom, well everybody has his own opinion about this. And that is good. And your right, it seems to be that it is not a democracy and that is not so nice. I think you must say what you want but always respect the other. Than there is no problem at all. osmosis: I think it is not smart when you have warranty you fixed it yourself even when there are only some spots. Always tell the distributor the problem, because when you do it by your self mostly the warranty drops. Greetings, Martijn "NO FEAR" |
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 08:27 |
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Stella, The reason I closed the topic was exactly because it was going off topic! Here is yet another example of it.. This thread has started with nothing to do about Hanse Yachts or about owning a Hanse but more how this website is run. This is exactly what I did not want to happen on the other thread. I want myHanse to be focused on owning a Hanse not on what people think about each other. I felt that the thread had come to an end and that when AO got any further updates he would start a new thread and we can all discuss. I did not want to go into the personal "why did you not tell us..." and "I can not believe you thought that I was....". This it Not what this site is about. I am more than happy for people to talk about this subject BUT it should not get personal. Jonathan |
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Naddura
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 10:14 |
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I was dismayed to see the topic raised by "anxious owner" censored by Hanse. Make no mistake about it that is what has happened. Owners from six countries made contributions to this debate including one from the lucrative American market. This heavy handed act by Hanse will not douse, but fuel the fire because the primary concern is not about personalities or silly comments but AFTER SALES SERVICE. As one owner pointed out osmosis is not a problem peculiar to Hanse, X Yachts had an incidence of osmosis and sorted it out with no costs incurred by the owner, this is the level of service I would expect from Hanse if all the necessary conditions had been met. Lastly how dare this spokesperson employed by Hanse suggest that owners cannot have an open and honest debate. We have invested large quantities of money in Hanse yachts and we can do without smoke screens being thrown up trying to detract from the after sales service being offered by Hanse. CONTINUE DEBATING Richard |
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Stella*Nova
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 10:50 |
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Moving a topic is one thing but changing the name of this topic I cannot accept. The original name was "Osmosis on Hanse II" My question now is? Is that censorship? If so I will leave this forum directly. Please rename this topic in the original Name showns above. |
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Geir R
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:12 |
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Let's not get carried away. I have to agree with the webmaster on this. It is understandable that he moves this type of discussion away from "Osmosis on Hanse" and into "Chit chat". Please note that he moved it and did not erase it. In my mind this discussion is about "Comments on closure of......." and not a discussion about the problem in hand. Censorship? If they did anything of the sort, they would have removed the thread and not closed it. In fact, the webmaster invited us to start a new thread as soon as we had anything new on this matter. Let us keep up the high level of discussion under each thread. If you want to discuss other matters - simply open a new thread. Geir Edited by Geir R |
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Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:30 |
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Stella, Thanks for your PM. I am more than happy for you to start a new topic about Osmosis in the forum BUT that was not what this thread was talking about. I changed the subject of it as it was not correct and I presumed that you would start a new thread with the Osmosis topic and did not want to get it confused. That is why I added to the title. It was ment as housekeeping and not cencorship. Hope this explains why and we can get back onto Yacht things... Edited by Webmaster |
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