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colincooper 
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 Topic: Cruising ChutesPosted: 19 April 2006 at 20:06 |
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Finally got a chance to try out a cruising chute / asymetric spinnaker on the 370. What a difference it makes. Wind speed 9kts running downwind at about 130-150 degrees off the wind. On main alone about 4.5kt boat speed. Put up the cruising chute and whoosh ... up to 7.5kts. We got the Momentumn sail supplied via Hanse UK. I haven't seen the North Sails one - but this is better value and seems pretty good quality. Comes with all the sheets and snuffer and launching bag. I had ordered the spinnaker halliard run in when I got the 370.
(Ignore the power boat. Look up. Very hard to get it all in one shot. It is huge.) |
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taduka
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Posted: 19 April 2006 at 21:43 |
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hi Colin have you installed the genniker pin from the factory? taduka |
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silversailor
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Posted: 19 April 2006 at 23:02 |
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Colin, she looks great. My 370 was just commissioned and I'll
sail her this weekend. I've been looking at several furling
systems designed for a cruising (asymetrical) spinnaker. A
company called CDI makes one that looks very interesting. If we
can get a few 370 and 400 owners interested I think I can get us a
favorable price.
The spinnaker can then be kept up all the time (with the assistance of a UV cover) or, can live on the furler, in the sail bag, and be put up at the dock or mooring, before you sail. Alan |
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Silversailor
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colincooper
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Posted: 20 April 2006 at 07:43 |
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Yes I bought a factory genniker pin from the factory. It is a short length of pipe that slots into a hole already placed in the standard stem fitting. It gets the spinnaker tack 30cm or so forward of the stem. Yes it would be good to hear more about a furler for the spinnaker. The snuffer tube works very well but you need to raise the sail whenever you want to use it. I've found the bag sits well on the foredeck clipped to the rail. With sheets in place you can then launch in a matter of a few minutes. It is a minimum two person job though. Colin. |
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taduka
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Posted: 20 April 2006 at 07:58 |
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Alan do you have a site for this CDI? Shawn |
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silversailor
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Posted: 22 April 2006 at 02:51 |
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Take a look at www.sailcdi.com and let me know what you think.
Alan |
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colincooper
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Posted: 22 April 2006 at 11:11 |
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Alan, Looks very interesting. I'd love to talk to someone who has tried it. Questions would be about how well the sail wraps up and how easy is it to furl when the wind picks up. Also how easy is it to detach the whole thing and take it below and is that easy whilst at sea. The nature of the cruising chute is that you only use it in light airs. That being so it isn't too hard or dangerous to go up on the foredeck - especially so if you make a rule to wear a harness and clip on. The main potential for danger is trying to get it down if the wind picks up quickly. Would this furler work in those curcumstances? Colin. |
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Posted: 22 April 2006 at 12:25 |
Another important question is how to handle the situation if the furler fails. You're probably worse off than if you rely on a snuffer, and I don't think you'd appreciate it if this happened when sailing solo. Another furler issue is what kind of gennaker you're using. A deep gennaker may not furl as well as a flat one (or a code zero). |
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John Allison
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Posted: 23 April 2006 at 13:49 |
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The only furling systems I've seen for gennakers / flat spinnakers involved a foam cored line that sets almost like a forestay. Without such a foam core suggest it might be hard to get even a flat cut gennaker to furl OK. Also not sure once furled how such a sail might pack up to stow away - my guess is it could be tough to fold or bag it into a small place. We've a snuffer for a full sized cruising spinnaker and provided you get one the right size - IMHO a snuffer should work better than attempting to furl. Especially so when the breeze gets up. We also have a code 0 which due to its flat shape furls OK without any need for a foam core. Even furling that in strongish winds is difficult. But both sails, without any form of foam core, can be scrunched up into relatively small bags for stowage. We find that important also. Cheers JOHN Edited by John Allison - 23 April 2006 at 13:52 |
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silversailor
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Posted: 23 April 2006 at 21:03 |
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THe CDI asymemetrical furler uses a high tech line between the furler
base and the top. Asm spinnaker is attached at the head and the
foot only... not along the luff. So, no foam luff is
necessary. The advantage , I think, is that it can be put on
before you leave your dock/mooring (or altrnatively, left on all the
time if you use a UV cover) and used or not depending on
conditions. Frankly, I thing the furler would be easier to contol
if the winds pick up. With a snuffer you must get out on the
deck and deal with a flapping spinnaker while you pull down the
snuffer.
Since it's a new product I haven't located any users. But, it looks good to me. Let me know if anyone is interested in purchasing for a group discount. |
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