Cruising Chutes

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   Nereide,

What others say is true.  To gybe the asymetric you would normally pass the sail outside.  I think you can get it through the gap if wide enough.  On Hanses this is not the case for doing it reliably.

What we do is to douse the asymetric, gybe, and then fly up the other side.  Cowardly maybe but safer when short-handed.

In the picture I think is is rigged outside everything.  The problem is that the inactive sheet then dangles in the water and seems in danger of going under the boat.  We reached over and hooked it onto the pin to stop this happening.

Since the picture we only fly with one sheet attached.  It flys better without the non-active sheet pulling in the wrong direction.

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colincooper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 October 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 562	Post Options Post Reply Quote colincooper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2007 at 08:02
	Nereide, What others say is true. To gybe the asymetric you would normally pass the sail outside. I think you can get it through the gap if wide enough. On Hanses this is not the case for doing it reliably. What we do is to douse the asymetric, gybe, and then fly up the other side. Cowardly maybe but safer when short-handed. In the picture I think is is rigged outside everything. The problem is that the inactive sheet then dangles in the water and seems in danger of going under the boat. We reached over and hooked it onto the pin to stop this happening. Since the picture we only fly with one sheet attached. It flys better without the non-active sheet pulling in the wrong direction.
	Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)

silversailor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 25 May 2005 Location: South Haven, MI Status: Offline Points: 1021	Post Options Post Reply Quote silversailor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2007 at 17:48
	I have a question about the halyard used for a cruising chute. Are you all flying your cruising chutes from the masthead or running the halyard through one of the rings that is on the mast just above where the jib halyard exits the mast? In other words, mast head or fractional? Is there any reason not to run the cruising spinnaker to masthead? Thanks.
	Silversailor South Haven, MI USA S/V Legacy 2010 Andrews 28

Popeye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 12 September 2005 Location: Mongolia Status: Offline Points: 322	Post Options Post Reply Quote Popeye Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2007 at 18:17
	Fractional. Use the rings at the top of the forestay to route the halyard down from the sheave at mast top. Fractional equates with published IJPE measurements. If running with masthead gennaker then I would make sure to get the sailmaker to measure himself, live, on the boat. I have burnt my fingers on this, thinking I was getting a big masthead genny, and ending up with a fractional.
	Popeye the sailorman

Alex Faber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 11 June 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 204	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alex Faber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 June 2007 at 16:38
	Please, have a look at the "Asym Spinnaker/Fractional or Masthead?" topic in the Chitchat forum.
	s/y eMotion (H430e #24)

Fun & Function Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 02 December 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fun & Function Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2008 at 22:06
	I have just got a gennaker for my 370 and need to install a halyard. I have seen the 2 rings above the forestay. Do you just run the gennaker halyard through one of them or should I attach a block for the halyard to one of the rings?
	*Steinar* Hanse 370e #348 Oslo, Norway

Rubato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 12 July 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1806	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rubato Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2008 at 22:14
	Steinar, This is the same config on the 400 - the spin halyard will run out of the top of the mast and then down through the ring you describe. No blocks needed Steve

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2008 at 22:19
	Hi, Just use the rings. Make sure the halyard is outside the jib forestay before hoisting.Also get the halyard 2-3 meters longer than perfect. During its life you will have to cut it several times at the gennaker end because of wear at the ring! Happy sailing
	Panos Hanse 630e - selling her -

Strand Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 04 March 2006 Location: Oslo Status: Offline Points: 50	Post Options Post Reply Quote Strand Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2008 at 22:49
	Hi My halyard was cut already first season, ending with the shute in sea during a regatta. Not fun! After that, I installed a block in the ring and have got no more trouble after. I recommend you all to do so. Edited by Strand - 16 May 2008 at 22:49
	Bjørn H430 # 350 - "Diva" Previously H370e #002 - "FUS"

greyghost Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 02 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote greyghost Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2008 at 23:58
	Bjørn, Which block did you install? Did you shackle it to the ring or attach it some other way? Any issues with it flopping around and/or fouling anything? Cheers, Doug
	Cheers, Doug Grey Ghost 342 #405

Fun & Function Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 02 December 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fun & Function Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2008 at 22:12
	I was on the boat today to figure out how to run the tack line back to the cockpit. I did not find any obvious routes. On the 350 forum, it has bee suggested to use the jib sheet as the tack line. This seems to be OK if you are out cruising and have plenty of time, but is not an alternative for racing. One possible run is straight back over the front deck, through the starboard opening under the self-tacker track, but I can't see how to get the line into the line channel that goes back to the cockpit. The tack line would hit some of the other halyards or reefing lines and create friction. Other alternative would be to avoid the line channel and just continue on top of the deck, but then it would crash with the sprayhood..... Anyone with a good solution?
	*Steinar* Hanse 370e #348 Oslo, Norway



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