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    Posted: 24 January 2025 at 08:29

Hello everyone,

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joost, I'm 40 and from the Netherlands. My passion for sailing started at a young age. After spending 10 years teaching sailing in small open boats, I ventured into competitive sailing, racing on small open boats, quarter tonners, and participating in sea regattas. Together with my wife, we started sailing on a Victoire 26, moved to a Jeanneau Rush, and ended up with a Jeanneau SO 32.1, which we sold about eight years ago. With our then-young children, time for sailing was limited.

Now, our kids are older (9 & 10) and have taken up sailing themselves, sailing once a week during the season and spending several weeks a year at a sailing school. This year, we've booked various boats: a Jeanneau 389 for a trip to Belgium, a Hanse 348 for a week's cruise on the Wadden Sea in the Netherlands, and a Dufour Grand Large 412 for a week in Greece this autumn.

We're feeling the sailing itch once again. Renting boats is expensive and lacks the charm of having your own vessel. Thus, we're exploring options for ownership (2nd hand). I'm particularly drawn to Hanse boats. They offer great sailing properties, with easy sail handling (such as reefing and using a self-tacking jib instead of a genoa), allowing the kids to get used to sailing while also giving us the flexibility to expand the sail plan (with a genoa, code zero, etc.). We really like the Hanse 348, though it's a bit cramped for two growing kids and slightly over budget (we want to spend around 100k, excluding upgrades).

So, here's the actual question: We're interested in the Hanse 370 and 400. They're quite similar in price, but I find it challenging to identify the key differences—something many of you might be able to do in your sleep. Although I know the dimensions differ, I'm unsure how this translates into real-world differences Our goal is to purchase a yacht within the next year, and I'd love to use this topic to discuss the pros and cons of both boats.

Of course, I've read through the forum, but haven't found a direct comparison between the two. We're also considering similar boats from Jeanneau and Beneteau, like the Beneteau Oceanis 37/361 and Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 37/38/39/389.

Looking forward to your insights!

Fair winds, Joost



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Joost,
The Hanse 370 and 400 are very smilar in the design and share several parts like kitchen and head. However, the 400 has more space and are faster. The biggest difference is probably the front cabin and saloon, but also the aft cabins are a little bit wider on the 400 (SB is 150cm and port is 180cm). When it comes to boat speed and handling I don't have any personal experience from the 370, but before buying my 400e I owned a 371 for 10 years. For me the 400 is much faster and at the same time more easy to handle than the 371. But, I would expect the 370 to be equal to the 400.
When it come to maintenance and upgrades size and cost correlates. Bigger sails, higher mast, bigger engine and bigger winches. More surface to polish in the spring etc. The draft of the boats are the same, but since the keel is longer from the bow, I have easier access to the islands in the baltic. If you can find a good example of the 400 (best to find the Epoxi version) I would go for that. It will not be to big! I'm often sailing mine single handed, and I have replaced the self-tacker with a overlapping jib and have arranges so I can sheet both main and jib from the helm position. I'm also using the code0 while single handed, but avoiding my 140 m2 gennacker.
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We sailed the dutch canals in 2012 and 2015 in my H400, and in 2015 I had to detour from  Boskoop to Rotterdam, because a bridge flap fell from a crane, and blocked the channel in Alpen A/D Rijn . We sailed in convoy with a real nice dutch couple then, Joop and Josie in "Bumblebee".
One thing you will have to consider, when choosing between a H370 and a H400, is the size of the boat. The H400 is a bit larger than the H370, This is: Mast height 19,52/17,77m, Beam 4,03/3,75m, Draft 1,98/1,95m (Option 1,65/1,60m). If you live near Volkerak or Krammersluis, the H370 will fit in the yachtsluises, while the H400 will have to go by the commercial sluises. 10-15 years ago the sailors on the big barges sometimes were offended by yachts in "their" sluis, and harassed the smaller boats. Considering the cocktail of low depht in the harbours and tidal waters, you may consider a low draft keel.
In the summer season, the dutch harbours are often crowded, and the H400 is a big boat to back 50 meters into a 6-7m broad channel between other boats without a bowthruster.
Visit Marcos homepage for info on the H370: wesailhanse.se.
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I guess the answer is really all about size. Overall length over 12m can sometimes make finding a marina berth more challenging. The 400 has wider internal doors and the forecabin layout may be more attractive to you. The additional beam on the 400 certainly makes the boat seem a lot bigger. However, I sail a 370 with my 2 grown up sons and we have a double cabin each and have plenty of space. I can only suggest you look at both and see which feels right for you. I am very happy with the performance of the 370 and would agree that the epoxy version would be better if you can find one.
Good luck with the search, Yoda.
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Thank you all for your responses; we’ll definitely take a closer look at both options. For now, it seems there are no shallow keel versions available, only the deeper ones. Is this just a coincidence, or were the shallow keel versions produced in very limited numbers?

On a related note, I’m on the hunt for a detailed layout of the interior of a Hanse 370 or 400. Specifically, I’m looking for an image or diagram that includes measurements—such as headroom, dimensions of the seating area, galley sizes, and so on.

I’m sure I’ve come across this kind of diagram before, but now that I actually need it, it’s nowhere to be found. Does anyone have this or know where I can find it? It would really help make sense of what I’m seeing in photos.

Thanks so much for your help, and happy sailing! 



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We have the 370 and we do love it.
But with a family with two growing kids … If you have the posibility , go for the 400.
Only wenn you want to sail the South the mast of the 400 is higher and several bridges are actualy Made fore the 370. Volkerak and Philipsdam are perfect to pass with the 370.
With the 400 you have to pass those bridges with the professional Ships…
Succes with your search.
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Thanks a lot! It will be a long search I suppose. Don’t know if we’re going to look for the shallow version yet. Not much of them around..
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