Difficult to hoist mainsail

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   A fully functional option is to spray the mast opening and sail-guides with teflon spray twice a year. With this I am able to hoist the sail ~80% of the way by hand force.Means more money for beers

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Oddmund Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 176	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oddmund Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2009 at 19:37
	A fully functional option is to spray the mast opening and sail-guides with teflon spray twice a year. With this I am able to hoist the sail ~80% of the way by hand force.Means more money for beers
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christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 17 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 175	Post Options Post Reply Quote christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2009 at 04:19
	Word!!! I use Super lube teflon paste.
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MarcoC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 23 April 2009 Location: Sweden, Stockh. Status: Offline Points: 1617	Post Options Post Reply Quote MarcoC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2009 at 12:55
	After having same problem with my mainsail and tried all lubricants there is I got a hint from an other Swedish 370 owner to resaw the travellers and change the whole kit. Sorry not knowing the names in english but a picture says more than words so look into www.cdg.nu/370 and choose FÖRBÄTTRINGAR - STORSEGEL (only in Swedish sorry) . A half day and 150 EUR later I can now hoist the sail with one hand almost to the top. If I had known this earlier I had saved many hours of bad language.
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skipper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 16 February 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 825	Post Options Post Reply Quote skipper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 November 2009 at 21:44
	Gregor, I have a question regarding the wheel you fixed to the Rutgerson battcars, what drill size did you use? Was it 4 mm diameter in the centre hole? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The reason I ask is that I have bought the 4 last battcars from Rutgerson, 2 that fit perfect with wheel size 24 mm (1520-11-06) and 2 that I need to do the similar improvement as you did (1520-11-01 wheelsize diameter 14 mm). According to the service minded person I spoked with at Rutgerson will they not manufactore the battcar model 1520-11 due to costreason. The mast profile I 330 on the attached picture do almost have the same dimension in real life, the "F" is 4,6 mm on our mast, Hanse 342. uploads/20091108_213944_sparcraft_mast_.JPG Edited by skipper - 08 November 2009 at 21:47
	Cheers, Skipper Former owner of Hanse 342 2005 (Sparcraft mast, white hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, short rudder)

Gregor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 11 February 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gregor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 November 2009 at 05:12
	Stefan, The drill size could be between 4 and 4.5mm, I don't remember the exact drill size. Too bad that they don't sell these anymore. The picture is hard to see. I had those rollers made. There made is of teflon that is resistant to sea water. Did not know that exists. If you have an questions, please feel free to ask. Gregor
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kweetje Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 15 September 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 360	Post Options Post Reply Quote kweetje Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 November 2009 at 13:18
	Hi All, since i ordered a 375 last september and am awaiting delivery, I'm reading a lot on this forum. When i see the difficulties to hoist mainsail, i'm wondering if the MDS mast sliding cars, included with the optional cruising pack, are an adequate solution to these difficulties. (i guess the option figured already on the option list of the 370 ?)

alettaenmarcel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 15 August 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1246	Post Options Post Reply Quote alettaenmarcel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 November 2009 at 13:55
	I have a 370 from 2006 In the beginning it was almost imposible to hoist the main sail . I have no battencars and al the sliders are simple. Now I do spray 1 or 2 times a year with teflon spray and I think it is OK without the battencars. Wenn I once order a new mainsail ( in about two years from now ) that will be a laminate sail wich will be much lighter in weight it will also become easyer to hoist. The mainsail including battens is about 35 kg heavy . That is also heavy to hoist. Succes , I am glad I did not buy the battencars (cost about 1200 Euro ) greetings Marcel
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Zeester Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 11 July 2008 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 181	Post Options Post Reply Quote Zeester Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2009 at 09:45
	The first season I had to use the winch for at least 1/3th of the way up. Also when letting the sail down I had to help it the last part by hand. I found out early last year that this was caused by the tension on the backstay. If I take off most of the tension I can hoist by hand almost all the way up and when I release the sail it comes down all the way without help. Regards, Ron

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2009 at 21:06
	Hi, I owned a 40 footer before MMBW Nicole. I could hoist the mainsail by hand almost to the top. IMHO three things are important : 1) To wash the track and cars with lots of water at least once a year. 2) To inspect and replace the cars if they show any kind of wear. I never lubricated them! 3) To hoist the main from the mast, not from close to the winch. The halyard passes through lots of blocks and double force is needed when you hoist it this way. Edited by panos - 13 November 2009 at 21:06
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David Lloyd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 17 October 2005 Status: Offline Points: 34	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Lloyd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2009 at 08:29
	Panos I completely agree with your point 3, I can hoist the main on my 370 completely by "sweating" it at the mast.All that is needed is someone to pull through the halliard in the cockpit and to apply the final tension. David



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