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colincooper 
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 Posted: 03 October 2006 at 08:06 |
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Strong are here: http://www.tidesmarine.com/
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Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)
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colincooper
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:18 |
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Using Google it appears that full battens are a well known cause of main track stiffness. Lots of solutions too. Hanse UK sell the Rontsan ballslide system. Has anyone tried that? Does it install without a new track on the mast? |
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Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)
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John Guy
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 11:08 |
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Dear Colin
We have the Ronstan system. It works (I can hoist the main about two thirds without resorting to the wwinch). The other enormous advantage is that when the halyard is released, the sail comes tumbling down very quickly. On the 370, Hanse UK fit cars with "narrow" feet, so that they fit into the existing track.
John
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Popeye
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 13:25 |
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Ronstan ballslides fit into the existing mast groove, no extra track required. They are what I got quoted for from my North sailmaker, apparently the sail needs som sewing or adjustments. Total cost was around 2.000 Euro.
John : How much did it cost in the UK ? You wrote that "Hanse UK fit narrow slides" ... does this mean that they sold you the Ronstan ballslides, what about mod's to the sail. Edited by Popeye - 03 October 2006 at 13:27 |
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Ian Robinson
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 13:53 |
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Hello Popeye,
Like you I have tried the obvious. Last weekend I fitted 4 Rutgerson roller slides that I have used successfully on other boats.
From North Sails the Rutgerson roller cars cost £29.43 (ex VAT) each and the Ronstan cars would have cost £140 (ex VAT).
Weather permitting we will be sailing this coming weekend and I can then report on the outcome.
Ian
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Abstinenz
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 14:37 |
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Popeye - you forgot one improvement source: "fittnes". Big boat handling is a great challenge to office people Serious speeking......we don't have the problem on our 342. We simply haul the main by hand without using the winch untill the main is beyond about second spreader. The haulocker schould also be open when hoisting the main.
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<DoZ>
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 14:49 |
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I think everything has been covered here already but we at Hanse If you do find that the sail feels stiffer than it should go mad with a bottle of Teflon lube (available in most chandleries) and also try letting off batten tension. Edited by <DoZ> - 03 October 2006 at 14:49 |
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Ian Robinson
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 14:50 |
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Hello Popeye,
Well yes fitness is a valid factor - perhaps a small gym in the lazarette would help. Anything that helps to delay the onset of electric winches has to be a good thing
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Ian
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Ostara a 370#88
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JofB
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 16:22 |
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We have the Ronstan set up and it certainly helps - a sail that large and mast that tall would be a real struggle without them, I think.
Having said that there are certainly times when it is easier than others. Occasionally I find (to my pleasant surprise!) that, when jumping it from the mast, it is suddenly all the way up and there is very little need for the winch at all. Similarly, it sometimes comes down much more rapidly than others.
Probably all down to boom angle and how tight the topping lift is, I guess.
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 16:46 |
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I would consider going to the top of the mast and looking at the sheave (et al). It may be a friction problem or jumped sheave.
Bob 371-#235
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