Difficult to hoist mainsail

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   I used a dry teflon spray a few times and now I am able to raise the main for 3/4 manually.

This sollution looks much cheaper. Imagine how many bottles of spray you can buy instead of all those mentioned systems.

Michael

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Dancin' Fool Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 26 July 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dancin' Fool Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2006 at 18:07
	I used a dry teflon spray a few times and now I am able to raise the main for 3/4 manually. This sollution looks much cheaper. Imagine how many bottles of spray you can buy instead of all those mentioned systems. Michael

colincooper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 October 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 562	Post Options Post Reply Quote colincooper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2006 at 18:11
	How well does it drop? Going up is just extra winching. Coming down means climbing up on the mast on a pitching deck..... Lots of ideas to try out and think about more on the next sailing trip ..... C.
	Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)

Popeye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 12 September 2005 Location: Mongolia Status: Offline Points: 322	Post Options Post Reply Quote Popeye Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2006 at 20:21
	This thread moves quickly.... jumping a couple of posts backwards for my comments : The jammer is open, and it is the same hassle if pulling in the cockpit or jumping it at the mast. I was at the top of the mast two days ago, checked the sheaves, nice and clean, no chips on the edges (as others have had) and running smoothly. From a bit of Googling it's clear that it's the horizontal forces on the slides in the mast groove that is the problem. And therein the solution. Just a question of which batten car system gives best value for money. Why don't Hanse offer a roller furling mast option, like other German boat yards..... .....hey ... only kidding ... joke ... don't keel-haul me ... .... actually the fact that Hanse doesn't have roller furling masts was an important point when choosing the boat a year ago.
	Popeye the sailorman

Strand Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 04 March 2006 Location: Oslo Status: Offline Points: 50	Post Options Post Reply Quote Strand Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2006 at 22:10
	Hi sailors After some rounds of teflonspray this summer and having eased the battens a bit, my main goes up and down without any signifant problems. I still need to climb up the mast to pull down the last couple of meters of the main, and to fasten and loosen the halyard. Two nice foldable maststeps are my best friends in these operations. I agree with Dancin Fool - a lot of other nice things to spend rest of the money on.
	Bjørn H430 # 350 - "Diva" Previously H370e #002 - "FUS"

silversailor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 25 May 2005 Location: South Haven, MI Status: Offline Points: 1021	Post Options Post Reply Quote silversailor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 October 2006 at 01:13
	This problem is exactly the reason that I ordered my 370 with an electric winch. This is my third boat with full batten mains. When I switched from partial to full battens on my Pearson 33 I added Dutchman slides which were relatively inexpensive and worked adequately. My Pearson 34 came equipped with Fredrickson slides which also worked adequately. My 370 lacks any special slides and were it not for my electric winch my poor bride would have a hell of a time getting the main up. (I have convinced her that it is more difficult to steer the boat out the channel than to hoist the main!) With that said I strongly recommend cleaning the track first, then lubricating it. I use a piece of aluminum or plastic that I wrap with cloth and attach by tape to the main hallyard. Then, after attaching a messenger line to the halyard I haul it up and down the track, first with a cleaning solvent, then with something like McLube. If done once per month things will run much more smoothly.
	Silversailor South Haven, MI USA S/V Legacy 2010 Andrews 28

colincooper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 October 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 562	Post Options Post Reply Quote colincooper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 October 2006 at 04:20
	Sounds like someone we saw in San Remo marina this summer. He spent all day going up and down cleaning a mast on a smart looking yacht. That was literally all day with hose and brush in hand. We wondered if it was a punishment for some crew member. I'll try the lube - and at some point look at replacing the slides on the battens. If I can get the main to drop most of the way that would be good. At the moment when I release the haliard it only drops a metre or two in free fall. The rest is hauling from below. And yes my two folding steps make it easier.
	Colin (owner of Hilde - a 370)

John Guy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 25 January 2006 Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Guy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 October 2006 at 20:32
	Popeye I included the ballslide system with my order for the boat (it is on the Hanse UK options list). The Ronstan system seems to be what either Hanse and/or North favour. All fitting/mods were carried out by Hanse/North. The cost - £1436. I have just returned from the boat and made a note of how things worked. I can haul the main up comfortably beyond the top spreaders, using the winch for the last metre or so. Lowering the main is a treat since it simply collapses into the bag (although there is still a bit of tidying up to do which involves a trip forward). John
	John Guy

Hutschlange Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 19 February 2006 Status: Offline Points: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hutschlange Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2006 at 05:00
	Hi John Do you have problems with windflutter along the mast? Was the ronstansystem installed in UK or in Germany? How many travellers is it between every fullbattentraveller? best rgds

Brightside Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 07 October 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 378	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brightside Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2006 at 08:37
	Hi. Is the slide slot of the mast straight? If not this can add resistance to the slide's movement. Regards Mike

John Guy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 25 January 2006 Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Guy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 October 2006 at 10:29
	Dear Hutschlange We experienced some flutter on our first few outings. I attributed this to my failure to get enough tension into the luff. I must be getting it right now because the problem has not recurred. I believe the work was carried out in the UK. I cannot recall how many travellers are fitted. Will report affter my next trip. Regards John
	John Guy



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