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    Posted: 16 April 2021 at 03:11
I miss more stoppers for additional ropes on my 575. 
I wonder if anyone felt the same and made any change. The room for stoppers is tight...
Thank you 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2021 at 16:01
More stoppers for what lines?    I actually have an open stopper I haven't used yet.      Maybe this is an outcome of the roller furling boom, but I'm curious as to why you need stoppers.

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German,

We have the slab reef standard mainsail arrangment. I fitted two permanent preventers to our 575. I replaced the portside single clutch on the bulwark which was for the headsail furling line with a double, one is used for the furling line and one for the preventer. I mounted the original single clutch from the portside onto the stbd side bulwark. I dispensed with the German Sheeting system and just have the main sheet going to the port clutch bank. This gave me a spare clutch on the stbd bank which I moved the Vang line to. This meant I then had a spare clutch on the port side clutch bank and I used that for the Topping lift which was originally on a cleat on the mast.

So now on the port side clutch bank I have  (Port to stbd)-
ST headsail halyard.
Gen halyard
Topping lift
Reef 2
Mainsheet

On the STBD side clutch bank I have 
Vang
Main outhaul
Reef one
Main Halyard
ST headsail sheet. 

Hope this helps.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2021 at 00:36
Nice...   I didn't run the preventer back, that helps...  I supposed I could use the messenger/open stopper for it, but its not used all that often.

Port Side:

Spinaker Halyard
ST Headsail Halyard
Mainsheet (German system)
ST Headsail Sheet
(open with messenger)

Starboard Side:

Leisurefurl Boom Furling Line
Leisurfurl Boom Vang
Main Halyard
Main Sheet (German system)
Topping Lift

FWIW

Rick
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote German Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2021 at 03:11
Thank you for the answers 
I miss two ropes. One spare halyard to climb the mast if needed while the mainsail is up.
Another for a second spi. I have one screacher, that I use with a 2x1 reduction halyard and would love to use the gennaker with a simple halyard to be easily put down. 
Those two ropes would make me feel more secure while Sailing. 
I will use the idea of a single Mainsheet to add one more stopper 
Thank you again. 
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German,

I use the topping lift as my safety line when going up the mast. Likewise it could be used to climb the mast if your main sail was up. I upgraded the topping lift to Dyneema so it could be used as a main halyard if the main halyard failed whilst sailing or got damaged.
Regarding the extra SPI halyard I guess the only option is to fit a clutch to the mast. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote German Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2021 at 01:33
I have followed your recommendation and changed the german system for a single mainsail rope. 
It seems that the rope is putting more pressure on the stopper and looses a few centimeters when out of the whinch. 
Please let me know where you fixed the other end of the line. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2021 at 03:32
I use a stopper at the mast for the ST jib halyard. This frees one clutch on the port side.
In port the jib is protected by a cover. The hoisting line for this is also on a light stopper at the mast.


Edited by Fendant - 03 July 2021 at 16:21
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