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Scotch Mist
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Topic: Racing Solent ishPosted: 01 December 2004 at 16:19 |
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I'm buying a new 312 for April delivery. Thinking of keeping it in Chichester marina ideally but other options could include Portsmouth. Anyway I would be pleased to hear from you if you are involved in racing that would be handy to these locations as it will assist me in deciding where to keep it |
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BlueMan
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Posted: 01 December 2004 at 18:21 |
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We are not involved in racing I am afraid but we are expecting handover of our new 312 next week. We will be keeping it in Port Solent over the winter and then Gosport from Easter onwards. Will be interesting to compare notes if you decide on Gosport. |
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Clivian
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Posted: 01 December 2004 at 23:09 |
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We have a 331 - do not race but keep our boat on a swinging mooring on a Hardway Sailing Club mooring inside Portsmouth harbour. Look forward to seeing you around in the new season. Sue |
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Scotch Mist
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Posted: 02 December 2004 at 12:07 |
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Thanks to Blue Man and Silverhanse I clicked reply on my Outlook Express and sent messages back to each of you, but now checking the message board (i.e here) I cant see it posted, so dont know where messages have gone! anyway if you dont receive them, let me know and I'll send again. |
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Scotch Mist
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Posted: 02 December 2004 at 14:55 |
To Silerhanse and Blue Man
Further to last message I have now descovered what happened to my 'reply' messages- basically nothing so I've copied and pasted them below
Hi Silverhanse
Thanks for your message.
I used to keep a boat on the Gosport boat yard moorings at Hardway. Is that where you are.
I might try them again.
Anyway I look forward to seeing you on the water, maybe we'll hook up for cruising in company.
Hi Blue Man
I have been talking to Hanse at Hamble point this week and was interested to hear they are preparing a new 312. I guess that must be yours! Assume you have chosen the blue hull (given the name) Funny how we think alike. Guess what colour my hull will be?
Where in Gosport will you keep her? and how much are they gonna rush you? |
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Clivian
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Posted: 02 December 2004 at 22:50 |
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Hi Scotch Mist Thanks for the reply We are just up stream from Rame Head - virtually opposite the broken piles. Hardway prices are very competitive at the sailing club, but we have to use our own dingy to get out to the boat, can be a bit wet..... but after 13 years I guess the dingy finds it's own way to Silver Hanse. We have friends on Gosport boat yard moorings and I think they tend to be a bit pricy - BUT you do have the water taxi to get you to and from your boat. We also have some friends that have come out of Haslar onto Gosport BY moorings due to the rising costs of berths. Unfortunately Gosport BY moorings would not have been an option for us as we live in the Midlands and 99% of the time drive down on a Friday night arriving at the water edge around 10.30 - 11.00pm - Don't think Mr taxi man runs out of hours that late!!! This message is to Blue Man as well - Enjoy your new boat - they are a dream to sail. If either of you get chance to sail up stream toward Fareham, you will see Silver Hanse on your Port hand side - she looks a little sad at the moment as we have closed her up for the winter - my hubby goes down to make sure everything is OK. When the sailing season is in swing again - cruise on up and say hello. I am glad that there are more Hanse boats popping up particually in the Solent area.
Sue
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BlueMan
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 11:51 |
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Actually we didn't go for the blue hull. I think that is probably the boat they used for the Southampton Boat show. We did our trial sail (in belting rain towards the end) on that boat. The blue hull looks fantastic when new but we want to keep her for a few years and were worried about it fading and having to be painted in 5-10 years time (I am a bit of a pessimist at heart!). Bumpy Dog (yes we do have children!!) will be in Port Solent for the winter and then we are moving to Gosport Marina at Easter. We had our previous boat in Port Solent since 1998 but have got bored with locking in and out and having a 45min trip up and down the harbour each time. Annual costs for a 312 are about £3,600 in Port Solent or £4,000 at Gosport. Gosport is slightly higher because they charge for the size of berth rather than the boat and I think a 10.5m berth is required (if I remember correctly). If you are thinking about Gosport give them a call and ask for Andy MacDonald (Assistant Marina Manager) who has been very helpful. I was very impressed during our trial sail (in about 15-20kts). The only thing I didn't like was the heavy tiller, especially under power, but we had pretty much decided to go for the wheel anyway so that is not an issue. I particularly liked the way the fine bows slice through the normal Solent chop. Following the trial we cancelled our Bavaria 32 trial sail as we had already made the decision! Foot for foot the Hanse is rather more expensive but we are convinced we made the right decision. Every time we hoist the sails I expect to be a little bit more convinced!! Our previous experience reinforced the fact that we were looking for a yacht and not a floating caravan. Handover should be next week so it is all getting very exciting. Fingers crossed for decent weather on 10-12th December and we hope to see you all next year! Would be good to keep the discussion going as I suspect we will have some more ideas on extra equipment etc as time goes on. Having said that we have loaded rather a lot of extras on already so I think the bank manager would like to see a bit of a breathing space...... |
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Scotch Mist
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 15:00 |
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So is the new boat called Bumpy Dog ? Not Blue Man. Actually some confusion The boat now being prepared at Hamble Point is presumably yours. I dont know what the hull colour is. I was assuming from your monica that it was blue (putting 2 & 2 together). Yes I also had a go in the Southampton boat show blue hulled boat and whilst it looks lovely was likewise concerned about fading plus scratching. I've chosen the grey as you've probably worked out. which colour have you chosen. I was also interested in the Bavaria 32 but didnt take up the test sail offer as from speaking to people I got the impression it was a bit of a caravan. I was impressed by the Hanse (really a much more seaworthy and race tweakable boat - but it could be more perfect if they used something lighter than that dark glossy wood interior finish) and so stopped looking. I've gone for the wheel version also. Yes I did look at Campers at Gosport- lots to commend it except pricey for what it is but not entirely discounted from reckoning. I agree with your thoughts re Port Solent. Presumably you got the 'boat show offer' as I did. Exras Im having are:- spinaker gear, main sheet traveler,folding prop,wheel,fuel guage, radar, wind instrument, GPS (probably not chart plot version at nav table) Tiller pilot. But Ive done away with the 'creature comforts' heating etc. Have you selected the asymetric spinaker/genica thing with the small bow sprit. I'd like to find out more about this and actually genoas as well. I think the boat might suffer speed wise with just the self tacker in light airs, but I wonder would it be better to go for the geneca or the genoa. On subject of sails - have you picked up on the barber hauler suggestion mentioned in a review. I'd also be keen to find out if this has been done and how it's rigged. Are you going to get your compass swung and if so how/where? Bhye for now (Spaces removed by Webmaster) Edited by Webmaster |
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Muscadet
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 15:43 |
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Hi Scotch Mist I got my 312 in April of this year. You're right about the selftacker - it's not good off the wind. You can improve its shape by using a barber hauler off the toe rail to change the line of the sheet. Another way that I have used when sailing downwind is to attach an additional sheet to the clew and run it through the genoa car to the genoa winch. Just release the selftacking sheet and you have a standard sheeting arrangement. I bought the V5 cruising chute which is terrific in light to medium winds. It is a big sail though (the Hanse mast is extremely tall - nearly 13m (over 40 feet!) above the deck. If the wind gets up it rapidly takes over! If you look through the various forums on this site you will find lots of discussion on the merits of genoa or gennaker. Good sailing with the new boat. Kind Regards Alan |
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Eternal Flame
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 15:53 |
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Hi Alan, just ordered a V5 so I am very curious about sailing in light winds.... I will let you know how she handles!
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