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Dubs2021 
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 Topic: Self tacker sheetPosted: 28 January 2025 at 21:59 |
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Do other 348 owners experience twisting in the jib sheet, where the 2 lines between the clew and the fairlead twist together and tangle? If so, what causes the lines to tangle? Is there a way to prevent this? After a few days out, I disconnect the block & pully and straighten out the line best I can. This is another drawback to the self-tacker, along with the small sail area, the heavy weight of the factory-rigged sheet and no built-in option to run the sheet farther aft downwind.
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Tranquillity
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Posted: 28 January 2025 at 22:12 |
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If you have a Seldon block on the jib crew it comes from the factory as a swivel but if you adjust the plastic clip on the block to make it fixed then it will stop twisting of the sheets. Makes a fantastic difference 😀
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Dubs2021
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Posted: 29 January 2025 at 22:06 |
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Thanks! I'll try to do that.
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FrankS
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Posted: 30 January 2025 at 23:21 |
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I think twisting of the sheets is mainly caused by the torsion of the sheet that you cause when the sheet is (with multiple turns) on the winch on the moment hat you roll in the jib. At that moment the existing torsion in the sheet is transported in the direction of the jib and causes twisting.
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samuel
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Posted: 31 January 2025 at 10:12 |
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You can buy ropes that resist twisting. I found that even on my squib dayboat, twisted jib sheets was a pain, until another sailor loaned his sheets to me. The difference was a revelation. But as suggested above, start by locking the pulley.
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H8jer
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Posted: 31 January 2025 at 16:01 |
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Hi Hugh
What diameter is your sheet? Perhaps it is a bit too thick? I went 2mm down on every sheet/haleyard when I changed to dyneema. It is much easier to hoist or pull now.
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Dubs2021
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Posted: 01 February 2025 at 14:38 |
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Yes the jib sheet is large, don't have the exact measurement; this line is the largest of all the sheets and halyards. I'll check into a thinner and non-twisting version - and locking the block. I also wondered if the wraps around the winch transferred forward. Thanks all!
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Martin&Rene
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Posted: 02 February 2025 at 11:46 |
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Hugh
RE your concern about the effectiveness of the jib downwind, the key is controlling the jib twist, so that you can have both the top and bottom parts of the jib working correctly. Look here at what I use all the time on my yacht. Yes, I know you do not have the luxury of a slotted toe-rail. Have a talk to your agent and he may be able to give you some advice on how you can fit a couple of pad-eyes on which you can mount the turning blocks and you can run the barber hauler lines through stanchion fairleads. Martin |
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Dubs2021
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Posted: 02 February 2025 at 23:07 |
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That's a nice setup, Martin. I've used a simpler version of the same concept on long downwind runs, disconnecting the big jib sheet and clipping in a much lighter sheet to run aft. Thanks for sharing that post again!
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