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    Posted: 08 August 2025 at 21:15
we noticed a slow leak of saltwater into the saloon on our drive up from San Diego last week. Upon inspection at the dock, under a hose soaking, at least 3 of the cleats indeed have a slow leak.

Working through the warranty to resolve now, apparently this has happened before.

Anyone else experience leaks from their cleats?

Curious to hear if this is a recurring issues, need to reagularly address or if anyone has found a permanent solution.

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I havent been checking the cleats for leaks but dont think I have such problem on my boat. The water in saloon can also come from leaking hatches (had this before) and windows. For the midship cleats, I dont think there is access underneath, not even sure how to fix those. Those at bow and stern should be easy to fix.
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we tested windows and hatches, dry.
The cleats leaks are drips through the retractable portion, underneath.
The bow and stern four are relatively easy to access.
Midship are less accessible, although water appears ontop of cabinets.
They all get taken-out from above:
*bonus, one of the drill cores was dropped inside during construction:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZdaMG52j9jNPZVC6
Was banging around and does not want to exit



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Looks like an easy fix for midship cleats but I am surprized no backing plate exists underneath as it looks from your pic. I recollect both bow and stern cleats have backing plates.
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good point
negative on the backing plate:

^This is from underneath the starboard aft cleat before removing
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The cleats and almost all bolted fixtures are threaded into aluminium plates set within the fiberglass layup. 
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The backing plates are painted, I think I see one plate on the pic, very right, another bolt is there.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Arcadia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2025 at 13:29
Wayne is correct in that the backing plates are embedded in the layup.  Curious if your leak is coming through the large hole in the deck, the screw holes, or through the metal cylinder where the post retracts into.
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small drops form under the retractable cylinders, then fall down. Might be due to their length and accumulation around and gravity pulling water off them. Dealer says they need more adhesive around the cleats to set in properly, so I am guessing the leaks originate elsewhere. Will be testing again soon. 

Are we the only ones with this issue?

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here is a brief video waiting for a droplet to fall:
it is on the bottom of the retractable portion, however the water enters somewhere above

will try to get some video with the hose running to see the water enter, good for documentation as we are still under warranty
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