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    Posted: 03 March 2008 at 13:38

With a nice weekend, I was able to complete the installation of my Anchor Windlass in my 370. The installation was relatively simple. The following shows this installation. A table was mounted across the Anchor well using an aluminum plate and angle brackets. This was attached to the sides using 8 screws. The Windless and local switches were then mounted to this plate. A control cable feeds back to the rear port of the boat for remote access. Hope these help anyone who may be looking at mounting their own winch.

Mike
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Edited by lukemi - 03 March 2008 at 13:41
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Very nice to see Mike
I hope it works well.
Was the boat already pre-wired, I mean , did you have to fit the electric wires yourself from the instrument panel to the windlass or wher the cables already there?
I saw wires on the greifswald pictures in this forum and i wonder if the are there on all the boats including the ones delivered without the windlass.
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Hi Marcel,
 
I saw another post on this forum about "prewired" windlass capability. I did not find any "prewiring" in my boat. Not really a Hanse limitation. They would not have provided the control cables I need anyway. I do have some questions about the panel switch wiring that I am going to address in another topic. I found a channel in the forward cabin roof that allowed me to run power and control cables most of the distance to the Anchor Locker. I though this was going to be the hard part but, it was relatively simple. My only issue was having to cut a small hole in the forward cabin bulkhead to run the cables through. I made a cut about 4 inchs square on the starboard side. This allowed me to get the cables through AND get access to some of the screws for mounting large washers for the table installation. I am currently working on a small box to cover this access area to "polish" the final installation. Running cables from the battery compartment to the front of the boat was easy. I only had to remove the access panels in the forward cabin to gain access behind for a "hanger snake and rope". One of the easier aspects of the installation.
 
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Hi Lukemi,

very nice neat installation.  Could you tell me how much chain you have and whether there is enough room for it to stack itself underneath the winch - without the need for moving the pile of chain by hand?

The standard Hanse arrangement only allows you to winch in 5 metres or so before it gets fouled underneath the winch - which can be something of a challenge when in a tight anchorage in windy conditions with no crew to help you!.

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Pardon my english measurements but there easier for me to work with here. I purchased 165' of 8mm chain. I was able to load about 100' feet without having to do anything below the winch. At that point, a simple slide of the chain into the well allowed the remainder of the chain to be uploaded without a problem. I compromized my design slightly. I wanted to have the top capstan (option on this type of winch) on the winch for possible backup in the case of a rope road. If I did not have this, I could have mounted the Vetus 4 " higher. This would have allowed plenty of fall under the table. This would be a better installation if you were sure you did not need the added capability.
 
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I have used my anchor on my new 370 for the first time today and was very disappointed by the windlass operation. I had it mounted originally by Hanse, not on a table like yours but directly on the bottom of the anchor well at its rear part. The result is that the chain hardly slips down to the bottom in front of the well, and it is necessary to push it from under the windlass every 20 cm or so. Very unpleasant, time-consuming, and possibly dangerous if you have to leave the spot quickly.
I make photographs on my next trip.
Another problem is that the Lewmar windlass engine seems very weak, I had to help the chain coming up...!
Definitely this is not the normal fitting of the windlass and I intend to have it modified. I would appreciate additional experiences on this topic.
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Originally posted by ligeia ligeia wrote:

Another problem is that the Lewmar windlass engine seems very weak, I had to help the chain coming up...!
 
Olivier,
You may not be aware that the windlass is equipped with a clutch and that you need to tighten it more if it is slipping. You should have a special wrench that is intended for adjusting the clutch nut.
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Fun & Function, I checked this. I felt the clutch was tightened, but I'll try to tighten it more with the Lewmar wrench. Had no time at the moment, having the trouble with the chain. Thank you anyway.
"Teles", Hanse 370 #695
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WinkIt is a common problem, you can try this: mount a stainless steel plate under the winch so that the chain slide on it, or even better mount a plate and use a stainless steel chain. I did this on my boat and it works.
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Originally posted by ligeia ligeia wrote:

I have used my anchor on my new 370 for the first time today and was very disappointed by the windlass operation. I had it mounted originally by Hanse, not on a table like yours but directly on the bottom of the anchor well at its rear part. The result is that the chain hardly slips down to the bottom in front of the well, and it is necessary to push it from under the windlass every 20 cm or so. Very unpleasant, time-
 
 
Check the video, do you have the same issue? Hanse told me nobody claimed that than me. They told me this is the Standard setup and they have no solution for that.
 
Mikes anchor installation looks very professional and clean. I think another fine installation is the one of Popeye. With that you have enough remaining room space for fenders etc. - see picture:
 


Edited by Stella*Nova - 17 April 2009 at 10:13
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