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Swanji 
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 Topic: Hanse 415 - reviews, opinions, videosPosted: 15 October 2012 at 10:31 |
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Hi all
For anyone interested in a Hanse 415, there are some interesting videos, opinions etc here Overall a very positive opinion Edited by Swanji - 28 January 2013 at 11:07 |
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Swanji
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Posted: 28 January 2013 at 11:07 |
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Hi All
Some more interesting views opinions on the H415 following on the Dusseldorf boat show. One of the most important observations in my opinion, is the lack of a waterproof bulkhead to protect against water ingress in the event of the rudder stock being damaged for any reason. This seems to me to be a really good suggestion and something that can possibly be discussed with Hanse when the factory visit takes place. Also I have read many criticisms about the Hanse interiors which I think should be considered as well as the lack of storage space for the 3 berth versions. Our H350 with 3 berths has a dearth of storage space - the result is that we sail with the fenders on the deck which is not ideal. Some negative views but still an overall favourable opinion Edited by Swanji - 28 January 2013 at 11:17 |
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Ilkhanse
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 02:25 |
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We will take delivery of our 415 this spring. I was worried about the lack of storage in the three cabin version, so we got the two cabin version. However, I plan on having the dealer make a quarter berth of sorts in the prt cabin. If this is done right, I think there will be a comfortable single quarter berth and we should still have access to a large cockpit locker. The quarter will be used for one of my sons, but shoud also be a good sea berth. I will post pics when we actually get the boat.
I am curious what folks think about the rudder post issue. Probably not an issue unless you are taking off on a world cruise, but it is a litte troubling. |
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Swanji
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 06:41 |
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That would be a perfect set up IMHO. You will have noticed that the Shards from Distant Shores have expressed the same opinion re storage in the link I have posted. Their opinion comes off the back of huge experience. I hope Hanse consider this aspect particularly on the boats over 40 foot.
Our Hanse 350 has 3 berths which means there is very little space to store anything in the cockpit. There is no doubt in mind that 2 berths would be preferable in a 35 foot boat. I have thought of cutting through the portside lazerette to give access to the port quarter berth for use as a storeroom when not being used but am concerned that this may result in water ingress. Having said that this is how it works when ordered from the factory so maybe something to consider. The H350 has 2 seats on the stern with zero storage and a huge area under the transom that is really difficult to access. I have to say that the new H345 is way better in this regard. Also our anchor locker is too small to take any fenders. I would have thought that a water tight compartment at the stern would set Hanse apart for very little additional cost if they decided to do this. Good luck with your new H415 and please post loads of images |
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High Time
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 10:36 |
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We opted for the 3 berth version when we bought High Time on the grounds that you could always use the 'spare' cabin for storage, but you couldn't use a locker as a cabin. That said, the idea of converting part of the locker into a quarter berth sounds good. I will be interested to hear how that works out (and to see the pictures).
Most of the 'extra' storage is needed for dry items like folding bikes, cockpit cushions, wheelie bags etc. These are fine in the third cabin. Fenders are OK on the stern guard wires (but not ideal, I agree). However, we are not sure what to do with the dinghy. I have sold our old Zodiac 2.8m which was getting too big and heavy for 2 of us and have an Excel 2.3 round tail on order (delivery due this week). This might just fit in the shallow cockpit locker but would not leave much room for anything else. I may have to do what I did on my previous boat and lash it (with U bolts and straps) on the foredeck. It would be out of the way there but exposed to sun and sea. We had an extra canvas cover made for the Zodiac which afforded some protection. Regarding the watertight compartment to protect against water ingress from a broken rudder mounting, you would be very unlucky for this to happen. How many production boats have this protection built in - none that I am aware of? What about a watertight compartment up front in case you hit a container or a watertight engine bay in case the saildrive seal bursts? If you were really concerned about such unlikely events you would never go to sea!
Edited by High Time - 29 January 2013 at 13:26 |
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Ilkhanse
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 13:36 |
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Would have done exactly that if I ordered the three cabin version.
I don't think Hanse is different than most other production builders with regards to the aft compartment. To be honest, I am not sure where the rudder post is on the 415. Is it forward or aft of that bulkhead? I think some of the points those guys on $(;@net bring up are valid, but I also wonder how much sailing some of them actually do. All boats are a compromise of sorts and it is easy to point out flaws. I think Hanse makes very strong boats that sail very well. The interior fit and finish also appealed to me more than the other German builder and the French builders. |
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 14:00 |
The rudder post is just in front of the bulkhead (from memory) so it would be a more difficult design exercise to make it watertight. Also, you would still need access to the lazarette area as that is where the heater is (usually) installed and pushpit aerials etc. are mounted. I fully agree with your final paragraph - self proclaimed 'experts' who state that colour schemes (for instance) are "just plain wrong" lose all credibility with me, I'm afraid. One thing Hanse should consider, though, is providing cockpit access to the lazarette area. The old 400, that has been superseded by the 415, had lazarette lockers. You will find, when you get your 415, that there is a lot of wasted space behind the rear bulkhead. Without proper access it is not usable, except for mounting an infrequently accessed heater, maybe. The available volume would take all the fenders and the dinghy as well, if you could get in!
Edited by High Time - 29 January 2013 at 14:04 |
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Posted: 11 February 2013 at 20:17 |
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Interesting photos. They look like they were taken during build, before the deck is attached.
I have to say the rudder tube doesn't look very substantial! It's also interesting that they fix the heater before the deck is attached - much easier access!
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