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   I have been using a Delta on my 371.    I already upgraded one size on my Delta from the anchor which was delivered by Hanse.    

I am based in the Chesapeake Bay in the US.   Bottom condition is mostly soft mud.     I find the Delta not the easiest to set and I have dragged a few times after what I thought was a good set.     Most of the times I have dragged related to a squall which came through with a change in wind direction and strong winds.     The Delta does not seem to do a great job with resetting itself when you have a major change in wind direction.

I am going to try a different anchor.    I have interest in an anchor out of New Zealand called a Rocna.     I have pasted in below some anchor reviews from the Rocna website if anyone is interested.     Was curious if anyone has used this anchor and if it fits in the Hanse 371 anchor roller.   Also, if anyone has had success with something other than the Delta and also a good fit in the anchor roller,please let me know.     Thanks.   Jon

http://www.rocna.com/main.php?section=real&chapter=press&page=0&PHPSESSID=f02d8ee75509413ed9b4a43b2905c388

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hull # 120 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 30 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote hull # 120 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: anchor Posted: 07 June 2007 at 15:27
	I have been using a Delta on my 371. I already upgraded one size on my Delta from the anchor which was delivered by Hanse. I am based in the Chesapeake Bay in the US. Bottom condition is mostly soft mud. I find the Delta not the easiest to set and I have dragged a few times after what I thought was a good set. Most of the times I have dragged related to a squall which came through with a change in wind direction and strong winds. The Delta does not seem to do a great job with resetting itself when you have a major change in wind direction. I am going to try a different anchor. I have interest in an anchor out of New Zealand called a Rocna. I have pasted in below some anchor reviews from the Rocna website if anyone is interested. Was curious if anyone has used this anchor and if it fits in the Hanse 371 anchor roller. Also, if anyone has had success with something other than the Delta and also a good fit in the anchor roller,please let me know. Thanks. Jon http://www.rocna.com/main.php?section=real&chapter=press&page=0&PHPSESSID=f02d8ee75509413ed9b4a43b2905c388

371-#235 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 14 February 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote 371-#235 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2007 at 15:36
	Hi Jon, I am very interested to find out how well the Rocna works both for holding and for fit on the bow roller. I've been looking at this anchor for a while and spent some time with them at the Annapolis boat show last fall. Bob, 371-#235

Alex Faber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 11 June 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 204	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alex Faber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2007 at 09:47
	Reports published in sailing magazines in Germany and Holland about tests with many different types of anchors (including Rocna) in different types of soil, show the Plastimo Kobra as the winner with the Fortress as runner up. But I can remember that the Rocna was one of the better performers.
	s/y eMotion (H430e #24)

Craig Smith Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 10 June 2007 Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Craig Smith Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:23
	Alex, to our knowledge there has been no testing of the Rocna yet in Europe. Without sounding arrogant, I would certainly not expect the Kobra, a Delta copy, to out-perform it. The only testing to date which compares the Rocna against others is last year's West Marine comparison series, as published in SAIL, Yachting Monthly, and Motor Boats Monthly. These are on our website as linked to by Jon above. These are West Marine's own comments:
	Craig Smith affiliated with Rocna Anchors www.rocna.com

Alex Faber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 11 June 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 204	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alex Faber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2007 at 18:10
	The "Rocna" was tested by the German magazine "Yacht" (the biggest sailing magazine in Europe) and the Dutch magazine "Waterkampioen". These were the tests I referred to. But the tests were off course published in German and Dutch. "Yachting Monthly" published a test of 14 different types of anchors, including the "Rocna", in their December 2006 issue.
	s/y eMotion (H430e #24)

jon mason Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 11 January 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote jon mason Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 June 2007 at 21:09
	Hi Guys, I have just switched from a bruce to a Manson Supreme. The new anchor sets easily , has never let go or slipped even in rough conditions. The bruce was rubbish in comparison. The article in Yachting monthly showed the rocna and Manson to be similar, the Manson is easier to get hold of and a little cheaper. Highly recommeneded bit of kit for just over £200!! Jon

Craig Smith Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 10 June 2007 Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Craig Smith Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2007 at 02:00
	The Manson's a copy of the Rocna - an article about the Supreme.
	Craig Smith affiliated with Rocna Anchors www.rocna.com

371-#235 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 14 February 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote 371-#235 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2007 at 00:23
	Yes, but does anyone know how well the Rocna fits in the 371's anchor roller and whether the locking pin will engage it?? Bob, 371-#235

hull # 120 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 30 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote hull # 120 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2007 at 03:41
	Bob: I purchased the Rocna 20 for my 371 as replacement for a Delta. The Rocna fits on the roller, but it does not fit as cleanly as the Delta did. I think the Hanse roller was made for purposes of housing a Delta. The locking pin is not going to engage on the Rocna with our roller without modification to the roller, but I have an electric windlass and I have the anchor tight and snug on the roller. The Rocna sits slightly on an angle as well. Its shank catches the bottom of my roller furling drum on release so you have to guide it out somewhat. This did not happen with the Delta and this is also not a perfect scenario. All that being said, once in the water, it appears to be a far superior anchor to the Delta. I am getting pretty instant and strong sets, and unlike the Delta, which I could always retreive with the strengh of the windlass breaking it free, the Rocna requires some work to break it free, which appears to mean that it is well set. I have only had the anchor about 6 weeks and have only set it about a dozen times so far, but early readings are positive as to setting and holding power. I can provide more updates as I have more experiences with the anchor going foward if anyone is interested. Jon

371-#235 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 14 February 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote 371-#235 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2007 at 17:13
	Thanks Jon, Please keep me posted as you go forward - I think a Rocna is in my future. Bob



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