Possible Purchase of 2003 Hanse 341

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   I am presently "between boats" and possibly about to purchase a 341.
(This is after some 30 years in a motorboat, so it is going to be a cultural shock for me, but I am really looking forward to it!)
I have 4 questions in my mind which I hope that someone on here will be able to answer.  Many thanks if you can.
First question is this - is the 341 a "skittish" boat to sail? I cannot find a road test anywhere to read, and at my stage of life I would rather have "stable" than "skittish"!
The hanse 341 I am interested in is a 2003 model - in beautiful condition, rigged for shorthanded sailing and with a self-tacking headsail.  On the face of it - it suits me down to the ground.
The only area that concerns me is access to the Yanmar 2 GM engine and I wonder if anyone can help here.
There are hatches on the port and starboard sides of the engine that open up and allow you to reach the dipstick and so on.
However it didnt look as if it was possible to get to the rear or the front of the engine, and I'm not sure it was possible to reach down below the engine at all either? I didn't have enough time to pull the aft cabin to bits and look at this on my short inspection.
Can any reader help on this point please?
The only thing I dont like on the 341 is the saildrive (they always remind me of outdrives and my experience with outdrives was short and expensive).   This particular one needed a repair to the rubber skin that fits round the leg and sits on the bottom of the hull as the skin was flapping around - and there was a lot of marine growth on the leg above this where it goes up into the hull.  
Should I be worried about this as well?  (Needless to say I will have any boat surveyed before I buy).
Last question is - apart from a bit of extra accommodation (which we dont really need), would I be better off spending a little more and going for the 371 for extra stability etc?  
Many thanks in advance to anyone who assists me.

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peterb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 18 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote peterb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Possible Purchase of 2003 Hanse 341 Posted: 18 August 2006 at 07:42
	I am presently "between boats" and possibly about to purchase a 341. (This is after some 30 years in a motorboat, so it is going to be a cultural shock for me, but I am really looking forward to it!) I have 4 questions in my mind which I hope that someone on here will be able to answer. Many thanks if you can. First question is this - is the 341 a "skittish" boat to sail? I cannot find a road test anywhere to read, and at my stage of life I would rather have "stable" than "skittish"! The hanse 341 I am interested in is a 2003 model - in beautiful condition, rigged for shorthanded sailing and with a self-tacking headsail. On the face of it - it suits me down to the ground. The only area that concerns me is access to the Yanmar 2 GM engine and I wonder if anyone can help here. There are hatches on the port and starboard sides of the engine that open up and allow you to reach the dipstick and so on. However it didnt look as if it was possible to get to the rear or the front of the engine, and I'm not sure it was possible to reach down below the engine at all either? I didn't have enough time to pull the aft cabin to bits and look at this on my short inspection. Can any reader help on this point please? The only thing I dont like on the 341 is the saildrive (they always remind me of outdrives and my experience with outdrives was short and expensive). This particular one needed a repair to the rubber skin that fits round the leg and sits on the bottom of the hull as the skin was flapping around - and there was a lot of marine growth on the leg above this where it goes up into the hull. Should I be worried about this as well? (Needless to say I will have any boat surveyed before I buy). Last question is - apart from a bit of extra accommodation (which we dont really need), would I be better off spending a little more and going for the 371 for extra stability etc? Many thanks in advance to anyone who assists me.
	The Ancient Mariner (Well thats what it says on my cap!)

Abstinenz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List myHanse Moderator - Denmark Joined: 27 May 2006 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 563	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abstinenz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2006 at 09:14
	Hi. The 341/342 is not a "skittish" boat. See test in Practical Boat Owner June issue 2005 (I think it was) No problems with the saildrive (It's not the same as the z-drive on a motorboat. The rubber skin demands better glue and it's no problem for a do-it-your-self sailor for the next 5 year. You will only get significant more stability with 371 but an additional 1000+ kg to handle in habour.

peterb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 18 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote peterb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2006 at 09:21
	Thank you Abstinenz I searched all the boat mags for the test report but couldnt find it. Will have another go later today.
	The Ancient Mariner (Well thats what it says on my cap!)

flatsails Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 05 April 2006 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote flatsails Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2006 at 13:17
	Hi Peterb, We Have a 341 down here on the Costa and with the self tacker the children can sail it and tack without spilling the Cola. We had it out with a 150% gennie and were caught in a sudden F6+, the boat lay on it's ear the helm loaded up and the boat rounded up gently, no broaching. There is an access hatch beneath the companionway ladder to see the front of the engine, drive belt and water pump, you may be slightly different as we have the Volvo Md 2020, the rubber you see flapping around the saildrive is only a fairing, look on this sight for pictures, someone has thrown it away and fitted a plastic sheet, with the Volvo I can reach all around the engine. To answer your question, the boat is not skittish in fact quite stable, it won't break any records wearing the self tacker under F3 If it is East Sails, but a realy enjoyable sail, Flatsails
	flatsails

peterb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 18 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote peterb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2006 at 13:21
	Thanks for that Flatsails. You certainly sound like you are happy with yours, which is the best possible recommendation.
	The Ancient Mariner (Well thats what it says on my cap!)

marcus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 20 August 2005 Status: Offline Points: 16	Post Options Post Reply Quote marcus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2006 at 15:13
	Im the happy owner of a Hanse 311 which is the smallest of the hanse fleet. this summer i sailed it singlehanded across Skagerak. the windforce was as much as 18 m/s. it took me 18 hours but it was pure pleasure . Im sure that you will be wery happy owning a 341.

window Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 30 July 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote window Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2006 at 05:44
	HI THERE, I RECENTLY PURCHASED A 2003 HANSE 341 WITH THE BIG MOTOR, I SAIL IT IN LAKE TAHOE, ITS GREAT, I RECOMMEND LARRY MAYNE THE BAY AREA HANE DEALER, HE A GREAT GUY. SCOTT
	SL

robh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 30 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 251	Post Options Post Reply Quote robh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 November 2006 at 22:42
	Hi Peterb, I have a 2003 - 341 Hull 113, which I have owned from new and is one of the best handling boats I have ever sailed. She gave a good account of herself in a foce 8 a few weeks back in the Solent, where at no point did the handling give any concerns. I have the Volvo engine so cannot coment on the yanmar but I believe the access is the same. As flatsails said there is a front panel that you access once the steps have been removed. I have a copy of the Report from Sailing Today which was published in January 2003. If you would find that useful let me know and I will scan it to send on to you? Rob H
	Cheers, Rob "Blue Horizon" Hanse 341#113 Portsmouth Harbour UK



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