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    Posted: 23 November 2023 at 17:17
Hi, I do have a Hanse 370 bought from 2007. Unfortunately I don't have a door lock and I don't know where to buy. 


Can someone send me a specification of the door lock and/or maybe provide a dealer contact. At least a picture of the lock would be helpful...
Thanks a lot for the support!
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Hello

Don’t make it too complicated. For example, here is a link to a quite new thread that shows what kind of locking system is the original one:

https://myhanse.com/locking-the-companionway_topic14329.html

We have even more simple solution, just a suitable padlock. Our lock is domestic Abloy. I think it is good that it is not possible lock it without the key. Because it is quite heavy, I covered it with that black soft material.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iemand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2023 at 21:12
I think I still have my old pin on the boat if you want it.
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Pls. Send me a picture….definitely interested…
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I have one somewhere.   I’m sure I kept it but where?  My problem was that the hole in the original one was too small for the padlock I needed to use.   I made a replacement by cutting down a stainless steel bolt.   The cutting is easy with a hacksaw but to polish it up you need a grinder with a polishing wheel and compound.
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Not that it matters in the slightest to what others may do on their boats, I'm with Merinalle on this one.  I inherited a seriously impressive lock on mine that would likely have resisted all attempts to open it, yet prevented storage of the washboard under the garage; constantly finding a home for it became frustrating.  However, I realised two things: first, that the whole perspex washboard could easily just be smashed in by two or three really heavy kicks and secondly, in my two-cabin version the salon can be entered via the lazarette which was only secured by a small padlock and a clasp with pathetically weak screws.

My philosophy is that if a thief seriously wants to get in he will and the damage may be worse the harder a thief has to try.  However, the vast majority of thefts are opportunistic and may be deterred with fairly basic measures; I'm (perhaps literally) betting that the simple padlock that Merinalle shows above will deter just as well as a more elaborate arrangement that might carry its own disadvantages.  I did beef-up the arrangements on the lazarette and put a removable bar across the access to the salon but again, my intent was more to deter casual theft.  Talking to my local marine police, it was very sad to learn that most thefts from boats are carried out by.....other boaters.  Its for that reason that my tender has my vessel's registration number on it and not the name for when its ashore in a mooring field or anchorage.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sgrhma2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2023 at 12:08
Ratbasher, you are right. If a thief wants to break in they will. I had a break in a number of years ago and the cost of repair exceeded greatly the value of the stolen items. I was using the standard lock pin  and a small padlock and had to replace the broken Perspex washboard and get a new pin (oddly the padlock was undamaged). As you say the thefts are usually carried out by other boaters and are usually opportunistic. A friend of mine works in the security sector and his advice is, and this applies to your home as well, to not install or use visibly high security systems or measures as this is basically advertising that there is something worth stealing and will attract the people you don’t want. Instead his recommendation is to use a system or device that visibly makes breaking in more hassle or slightly more difficult than your neighbours. Not very nice, but he recommends that you basically have a security race with your neighbours and always stay visibly just slightly ahead of them. This way if there is going to be a break in you get left alone and you sympathise with your neighbour if it happens. Our yacht club has adopted this method and for a number of years have had no stolen equipment while our neighbours have had numerous incidents. We have however added slight upgrades to our visible security equipment to maintain the perception of being more hassle to steal from.
An important point to make though is that all of this goes out the window if you leave something very desirable where a thief can see it.

Hope this is useful 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ratbasher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2023 at 12:33
That's a good point, Simon.  It brings to mind that old story about two campers disturbing a bear.  One camper gets out his running shoes and the other says "That's stupid; you'll never run faster than a bear".  The first guy replies "As long as I can run faster than you...."

I always find it helpful to think deeply about what overall effect I want to achieve rather than focus on one specific item.  It can generate some surprising solutions.
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Ratbasher, couldn’t agree more. The big question is ‘what does good look like’? It’s usually very hard to actually work out what good is, but once you’ve done that it’s a simple case of breaking down steps and actions required to achieve good and doing them.

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