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    Posted: 30 May 2010 at 20:12
Hi everyone

Although, I have had my boat in the water for more than a month by now, I haven't had the time to check the water system until this weekend (workCry).

Anyway, I had the system "winter protected" etc. and this weekend I filled the water tank to give it a flush with fresh water. I turned on the Flojet pump as I would normally do, but nothing happened. I could'nt get anything out of the taps. The pump just kept "spinning" as it would normally do for just a minute to get the pressure up, but no water through the system.

Could this be because of air in the system - or what? How do you get the water running again?

Here is the Flojet water pump. It is placed under the forward port side seat in the saloon (see below). To start with, I forgot to mount the filter, but I soon found out and got it back into place - UpsEmbarrassed

I know there has been some discussions concerning the water pump earlier on this forum, but I could'nt find any solutions to my problem (I am a complete novice thoughEmbarrassed)



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Edited by kirkelund - 30 May 2010 at 20:19
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did you open the water-tap in the bath-room and the kitchen?  be carefull, if you fill up the system, because, if the outdoor shower ist broken, the pump will fill up your bilge. do you got water in the filter?
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Hi nickflo / Druid

Thanks for the response!

Yes, I tried to do both, but not at the same time, though. Maybe I should try that. I did mount the outdoor shower tap (it is connected to the Isotemp tank). As far as I can determine, it is still intact. So far I haven't succeeded in getting any water through the system at all, so not water in the bilge - yetWink

I can't even see any water in the Flo Jet water filter (water doesn't even reach the pump). So, my initial diagnosis is that there too much air in the system to build up water pressure. It seems the pump is just spinning in "thin air". That's probably also why it just continues and does not switch off again.

As I understand it is supposed to switch off as soon as the water pressure is OK. So normally when you switch on the water pump it builds up pressure for a few seconds and then stops. If you then open a tap it goes off again to keep the pressure - right?

Anyway - thanks a lot for the check list. I will try to open both taps at the same time and check the outdoor shower again.Thumbs%20Up

Ole,


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Two more things to check:  (1) the strainer--if clogged the pump cannot pull water from the tank; and (2) the tank air vent--if clogged this will create a vacuum which the pump cannot overcome.  Good luck solving this problem.
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Hi Doug

Thanks, I will add the vent to my check list. Do you mean the overflow valve in the hull, or is there another vent somewhere else on my 342? The overflow valve should be enough to prevent vacuum - or?

The strainer is OK.

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Yes, the valve, or vent, in the hull.  This is an air vent.  If you over fill the tank water will back up through this vent and over flow.  This may be worth trying to flush out any possible blockage in the vent tube.
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I'm not sure about the angles in your picture but it looks like the hose from the tank makes a turn above the pump. Is that right?
If so, you should remove the filter, by pulling the blue sprint in the left hand side of the pump. Suck on the hose so you get water all the way to the filter. Try to mount the filter again, without letting the water out of the hose.
And yes, I do believe that it is trapped air that is the reason for your problem. You might also get a better result if you fill up your water tank as much as possible.
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Hi Mats

Yes the hose from the tank does make a U turn over the pump.

Your idea to remove the filter and suck to get water through sounds like a good idea and maybe I'll fill up the tank also.Thumbs%20Up

I can't wait to try out all the good advice this weekend. Thanks a lotBig%20smile

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Hi everyone

Thanks again for all the advice!

I am now getting water out of the taps again.

I went through the check list. All seemed OK. - but..

@Mats, I tried to loosen the filter and suddenly a little water ran through to the pump. I fastened the filter again and apparently that did it!

I still have a leak at my outdoor shower, which makes the pump continue spinning even after closing the taps. Hopefully that should be easy to fix.

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Sounds as though the problem's fixed now, but for future reference I have found that a very simple solution to curing air-locks in the freshwater system (this is usually the cause of the problem, and typically when the tank has run dry) is to remove the shower-head in the heads and suck on the end of the tube with the tap open and the pump running until you pull enough water through to prime the pump.  Then turn the tap off quick before you get drowned!  Same process also works on boats where you need to switch between freshwater tanks and an air-lock develops. 
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