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Rubato
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Hmm, wanted to edit the above post but I don't see how to do that anymore! Anyway, I looked at the IS40 and now understand better that it's a general display, sorta like the IS12 Mega, and not a complete instrument line...
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Steve
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Janni
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What worries me mainly is that the main sheet does not allow a traveller anymore for the newer Hanse models. Main reason is the cockpit table, which is in the way like on the Bavaria models. Furthermore the way the halyards and sheets are placed, are reducing the winches from 4 to 2 only, not suitable for active sailing. |
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iemand
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Still no photos from outside available?
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Peter-Blake
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Yeoman
Admin Group Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: Hamble Status: Offline Points: 379 |
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Hi Folks,
I have just received the latest 345 photos from the shoot we did in the Solent a couple of weeks ago.
They are posted on the Hanse Yachts UK Facebook page.
Cheers
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Peter-Blake
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Thanks Yeoman.
To make it more easy to find the fotos, here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/HanseYachts/photos_stream BTW The boat looks nice, but i do not like the additional extremly thin windows in front and behind the main windows. They destroy the lines in my opinion. Edited by Peter-Blake - 17 October 2012 at 13:24 |
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alettaenmarcel
Admiral Joined: 15 August 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1218 |
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you can look through the opening windows and you see partly the white from the outside off the cabin , and I think that if that part is black coated it ould look a lot nicer.( try this with black tape before painting this) btw , nice pictures , and beatifull orange genaker ( did they borow this from Jeanneau? :-) greetings Marcel
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Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-......
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Jakob Pinade
Sub Lieutenant Joined: 22 October 2012 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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I think the 345 looks brilliant! Higher ballast ratio, more natural light in the cabin, excellent large pantry and spacious heads (in the two cabin version). Note that the keel weight is actually higher than on the Hallberg Rassy 342, although that one has got a lead keel which of course is preferable. With such a wide transom the twin steering wheels really makes sense. Otherwise the ergonomics would suffer. Only source of concern is the genoa winches and the main sheet traveler. I assume they both will be optional? But where to place them? I always hope that some of the more affordable brands are going to adopt the setup of the Najad 355. I think the Najad 355 is pretty close to the optimal setup for shorthand sailing WITH sail control. Any info on those questions Yeoman?
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Yeoman
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Hi Jakob,
It is certainly a very stiff boat thats for sure!
The genoa winches are optional (they mount on stainless cradles over the lines forward of the spinlock bank) and I would choose them but having said that we sailed with the assymetric very easily with just the aft winches thanks to the German mainsheet system.
The mainsheet traveller is not an option from Hanse and personally would not choose it even if it was. The twin block system on the coachroof is very effective when twinned with a nice powerful vang system. When you are sailing upwind the windward block takes a lot of the load and allows you to get the boom just off the centreline which is perfect for a small jib. If you then pull the vang on hard should you need to ease the main in a gust the boom stays at the same angle giving the same result as dropping the traveller to leeward.
Ofcourse you do not get the very fine tuning ability from this type of system but when cruising how often do you want to scandalize the main really.
The benefits are considerable from a safety point of view and very nice to gybe as the twin block system helps to gently transfer the boom across like a smaller version of a boom brake.
I hope that helps
Phil
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Jakob Pinade
Sub Lieutenant Joined: 22 October 2012 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Thanks for the info Yeoman!
I saw a photo of a 385 with the winch on an elevated steel plate. Looked a bit weird at first, but after digesting the idea I certainly could find no reason to why it shouldn't work. I guess it is more uncommon than not functional. And personally, I would feel really naked in a boat with only two winches. I absolutely agree that with kids or pets aboard it is quite convenient to get the traveler out of the cockpit. One worry less. And if the twin block system also acts as a small boom brake that would be some really good compensation for the loss of the fine tuning ability. I have a rather painful memory of saluting the boom once . Luckily it was a small boat so I only ended up counting stars , not sheep. But even so the power of the hit was really scary. Personally I would still prefer a traveler though. So for what I can see or think of, that would be one small minus and nice long list of pluses . The only thing missing then would be a bar to prevent the cook from diving across the oven. Not the biggest worry as it can easily be installed by those who want it (most?) later. I am certain it is going to be a real winner in the market. Seems like the other budget brands have to come up with something to respond. It certainly has got the top position on my want-to-have list. |
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