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    Posted: 26 December 2012 at 11:37
Hi all 320 owners.
I have baught a Code 1 and a Gennaker to my 320 and need to know how you attached the block to the sheet at the stern?

Did you attached an eye for the block or how?
If you have pictures i will be very happy.

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//Henrik
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Hi,
 

You will find some pictures at this link, may be it gives you some ideas?

http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4479&PN=5&title=code-0-sail

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Henrik84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2012 at 13:19
Thanks Jøvani.
Bur I need to know how to attached the block olden at the stern.
I have tryed Pfeiffers Block holder that you attached to the footrail but it will start to slide forward when the force get higher.

I have seen on other boats that they have Pad Eyes skrewed into the deck, but will this work? Is there any metal plat under?

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On my  411 there is a welded “Pad Eyes” to the lower part of front leg of the push pit. According to my local sail loft it is strong enough for the block.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Windsurfer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2012 at 18:19
Henrik...do not attempt to use pfeiffer rail track block holders for the genny sheets...you will bend the rail if it gets windy....my solution works perfectly for me, but I have to attach the blocks and lead the seets every time I go out and plan to use the chute....I have Spinlock high load BRS 63 blocks that I attach to the reat mooring cleats using the diamond knots....it takes a minute to attach and remove and it doesn't require any installation routine...

I use these...
https://www.spinlock.co.uk/en/organisers/brs-range/mobile-high-efficiency-block-with-locking-cam

As for the welded eyes...we have them on our 320 as well, but I slightly bent one of them in a gust, so stoped to use them...they do not look trustworthy, besides I use one to attach a block with stopper to furl the jib...works perfectly...


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Originally posted by Henrik84 Henrik84 wrote:

Hi all 320 owners.
I have baught a Code 1 and a Gennaker to my 320 and need to know how you attached the block to the sheet at the stern?

Did you attached an eye for the block or how?
If you have pictures i will be very happy.

Thanks
//Henrik
Hi Henrik
 
We use the pad eye on the pushpit for our gennaker which has worked well - no sign of bending or twisting. This location also suits using the genoa winches on the coaming.
 
@Windsurfer
 
I have just received the toerail blocks from SVB/Pfeiifer to which i intend fitting blocks for barber hauling the self tacking jib for improved down wind performance. I hope these fittings don't slide with a self tacker?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Thanks.
@Windsurfer: I have already 2pcs of spinlock BRS blocks onboard. How did you attached them to the mooring cleat? The loop on he BRS block i very short. Do you have any picture?

I think i will try to use the puchpit rings to the gennaker and the mooring cleats to the Code 1 sail because it is more force with that sail.
 
Today I use BRS to the furlingline and it work perfect.

@Swanji: I have used Pfieffers block holder for barber hauling last year and it works perfect with low forces.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Windsurfer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2012 at 19:29
I will try to find a picture or will attach a block next time I'm on the boat (it's currently on the dry and I will not be there soon...in a week maybe....the attachment is simple...yes the loop is short, but you use another quick-release diamond knot (remember the Liros high load soft shackles that you had sent me??) there's also an elastic short strop on the BRS block that you attach to the rear stanchion to make it hanging on it...this is how you keep it at the right angle to the genny sheet and prevent it from bumping against the gelcoat...you can actually use any good quality rope to tie the block to the cleat especially if you're good at marine knots...I find the Liros soft shackles easier and more reliable for me...

The gennaker has quite a bit of force in 10 kts+ of wind especially if you start rounding up into the wind and going halfwind at 90-100 degrees TWA....the forces involved are substatial enough to bend those tiny eyes at the welding points (like it was on my boat)...so I woundn't recomend to use them unless you are sailing in light winds... 

@Swanji....this is what these Pfeiffer rail block holders were designed for....barberhaulers...they could work equally on the furling line just make sure you tighten the small bolt all the way to prevent them from sliding...


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The Pfeiffer rail attachments are rated to SWL 125 kg...
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We also use the eye on the base of the push pit without any sign of stress in the fitting. When close to the wind in 12-14 knots apparant the loads necessitate the use of the winch, but no problems with the fitting.
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