445 Prices World Wide

And to start the ball rolling I just checked yacht world and saw a Malta dealer quoting u.s. 205,000 and on another site a British site 228,000.

Hi, I'm an Australian resident living in London with a 461 moored on the South coast of Spain. We planned and still intend to sail her out to QLD but the whole ball game has changed somewhat. Firstly we bought when £:$AUS was about 2.3:1. Sterling and US and Euro have since crashed rate is now 1round 1.45 to 1. I see boat prices new and second hand in Aus have gone down as well in correspondence.

Your main problem are the costs of getting it to Aus. Sure in Europe you can buy either new or good second-hand (my choice). Let someone else pay all the profit margin and get all the problems ironed out and install all those little goodies that are so essential but so b...y expensive! Even allowing 12-18 months sailing to Aus, you will still be up for duty and GST. From what I now know from talking with others who have arrived in Aus, Customs are happy to add in the "shipping" costs from the nearest port, say Fiji, so this talk of adding in the commercial deck rate from UK to Aus is just cr_p.

All the same, it will cost. You need to ask, can I buy a good second hand in Aus already?

The other factor is the problem of selling. There is NO MARKET in Aus at the moment. If I arrive in Sydney with our beautiful 461 I might sell her if I'm willing to drop to $300,000 or less. For a boat I paid the equivalent of $480,000 plus the contributions I have to make to the government when I arrive. Not a good investment? We intend to moor her in our chosen marina and live on board for one or two years whilst Aus house prices collapse. If you look at such a mooring as a deluxe 3 bedroom apartment in the centre of town with waterfront views, no rates, fixed electric / water etc costs and no gardening, its a great deal.

I've been looking at this for some time now. You might want to follow the link below then just keep reading. Not good!!

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/importing-a-yacht-from-us-to-australia-14084-2.html

Regards, Graeme

461: Dreamtime Wanderer, on her way to Australia.

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waltini Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 27 January 2012 Location: sydney Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote waltini Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 445 Prices World Wide Posted: 27 January 2012 at 11:03
	I have been looking on the net at Hanse prices. I am in Sydney Australia which must be the most expensive country in the world to buy a yacht. If I was prepared to buy a new Hanse 445 in any country in the world, which country is regularily the best priced? One problem is what is included in the price so it can be difficult to compare but I look forward to your experiences!

waltini Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 27 January 2012 Location: sydney Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote waltini Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 January 2012 at 11:18
	And to start the ball rolling I just checked yacht world and saw a Malta dealer quoting u.s. 205,000 and on another site a British site 228,000.

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	The prices are as I know internationally the same as a specification of the shipyard. Everything else is negotiable with the dealer. Look at this link: http://www.bryggan.net/pdf/prishanse445.pdf
	Sailing is a Passion, ex Hanse 445, now Moody DS 54 H445#74

graemefromdownu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 01 July 2009 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 217	Post Options Post Reply Quote graemefromdownu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2012 at 15:46
	Hi, I'm an Australian resident living in London with a 461 moored on the South coast of Spain. We planned and still intend to sail her out to QLD but the whole ball game has changed somewhat. Firstly we bought when £:$AUS was about 2.3:1. Sterling and US and Euro have since crashed rate is now 1round 1.45 to 1. I see boat prices new and second hand in Aus have gone down as well in correspondence. Your main problem are the costs of getting it to Aus. Sure in Europe you can buy either new or good second-hand (my choice). Let someone else pay all the profit margin and get all the problems ironed out and install all those little goodies that are so essential but so b...y expensive! Even allowing 12-18 months sailing to Aus, you will still be up for duty and GST. From what I now know from talking with others who have arrived in Aus, Customs are happy to add in the "shipping" costs from the nearest port, say Fiji, so this talk of adding in the commercial deck rate from UK to Aus is just cr_p. All the same, it will cost. You need to ask, can I buy a good second hand in Aus already? The other factor is the problem of selling. There is NO MARKET in Aus at the moment. If I arrive in Sydney with our beautiful 461 I might sell her if I'm willing to drop to $300,000 or less. For a boat I paid the equivalent of $480,000 plus the contributions I have to make to the government when I arrive. Not a good investment? We intend to moor her in our chosen marina and live on board for one or two years whilst Aus house prices collapse. If you look at such a mooring as a deluxe 3 bedroom apartment in the centre of town with waterfront views, no rates, fixed electric / water etc costs and no gardening, its a great deal. I've been looking at this for some time now. You might want to follow the link below then just keep reading. Not good!! http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/importing-a-yacht-from-us-to-australia-14084-2.html Regards, Graeme
	461: Dreamtime Wanderer, on her way to Australia.



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