Quirks of 371

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   I'm thinking about buying an '04 and would like to hear how other people have dealt with these issues:

1) The bump in the deck at the helm, behind the steering pedestal. I know this is steering-related. I found it annoying. What have your experiences been?

2) The height of the bimini is exactly at my eyes' level so I have to look over or under. Again, annoying.

3) When single-handing, what's been your experience with having to leave the helm to adjust the jib sheet? On the '06 Hunter 36 I currently sail, I adjust the jib often. On the Hanse, do you set it and pretty much leave it unless there is a significant wind change?

4)  And this is a physics question. The owner claims he gets just as much speed using the self-tacking jib as he does using his 150% racing Genoa. I believe him, but I don't see how that can be. What have others found?

Thanks,

GS

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garrys Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 14 January 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote garrys Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Quirks of 371 Posted: 26 January 2010 at 01:33
	I'm thinking about buying an '04 and would like to hear how other people have dealt with these issues: 1) The bump in the deck at the helm, behind the steering pedestal. I know this is steering-related. I found it annoying. What have your experiences been? 2) The height of the bimini is exactly at my eyes' level so I have to look over or under. Again, annoying. 3) When single-handing, what's been your experience with having to leave the helm to adjust the jib sheet? On the '06 Hunter 36 I currently sail, I adjust the jib often. On the Hanse, do you set it and pretty much leave it unless there is a significant wind change? 4) And this is a physics question. The owner claims he gets just as much speed using the self-tacking jib as he does using his 150% racing Genoa. I believe him, but I don't see how that can be. What have others found? Thanks, GS

lukemi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 06 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 439	Post Options Post Reply Quote lukemi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2010 at 17:18
	GS, I have a 370 but the 371 is very close. I can't answer 1 since this is one of the differences. Regarding 2, the Bimini may have been installed in Europe. My local dealer suggested that I have my Bimini locally installed in Annapolis since the North American standard is generally a bit higher than the European standard. I would expect that the lower Bimini may be better for racing. Regarding 3, I have the Self Tacker which required very little adjustment if there is significent wind. Regarding 4, the owner is telling the truth but not the whole truth. The self-tacking jib is just as fast as a 150% IF the wind is over approximately 12-15 knots. Below this though its really bad. I have purchased a 140% Genoa for the spring in hopes of harvesting winds between 3 and 7 knots. I have lost plenty of races due to not moving in low winds. Just my thoughts. Mike Stella Maris 370e#166

garrys Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 14 January 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote garrys Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2010 at 17:26
	Thanks, Mike. The owner said the self-tacking jib is slower coming out of turns around marks, but I'll probably never race, so that's academic. There are times when the wind is light in San Diego, but I'm wondering if taking down the self-tending jib and hoisting the racing jib will be worth the effort. Anyway, another question is the small sinks in the galley. What were they thinking? Your boat, being more current, probably has the larger sinks. Well, I'm not rushing to buy this boat, but it sure is nice. The dark blue hull might also be a problem--fading and hard water streaks and all that. What's your boat color and experience? GS

lukemi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 06 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 439	Post Options Post Reply Quote lukemi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2010 at 18:04
	GS, I though the sinks were the same between the 371 and 370. I have found them adaquate for all that I have done. I do have the extended counter top in the kitchen that is nice (had to give up the rear port cabin for this). My hull is the light blue (Robins Egg Blue) that is part of the Epoxy Hull Gellcoat. This is one significent difference between the 370e and 371. I do not believe the fading is a big issue. Several years downstream you can always topcoat if you desire. Costs a bit but makes the boat look like new. If you are looking at a purchase, it is a really nice boat for both crusing and racing. I do a little of both and have been happy. I concur that the self-tacker is slower rounding the marks. Last year I could not keep the same angle of approach that all other boats had in one local race. They all had 140% Genoa ratings to my 105% rating. After that race I vowed not to let the sail constrict me this year. My North Sail dealer had 3 sails for the 370 made this winter. Looks like I may have some competition this spring. Mike

bkyachts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 24 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote bkyachts Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2010 at 23:14
	GS, The dodger/Bimini on the boat you sailed on was installed locally and is slightly higher than the factory one. The hump in the center behind the wheel is not as much an obstacle as you would think when sailing. It offers a good foothold when going to weather. The newest design, 375 has cleats installed to serve this purpose. The 370 has the primary winches further back and you can trim the jib and main from the helm. The owner has a 140% Genoa that he uses for racing. The larger sail allows faster acceleration out of tack and in all but the lightest winds is not needed. The small headsail and main offers equivilant sail area to displacement and comparable boats with a large headsail. Off the wind he has a AP asymetric spinnaker. Most of the owners in SoCal sail with the self tacker and find in very satisfactory. Edited by bkyachts - 05 February 2010 at 23:22

garrys Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 14 January 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote garrys Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2010 at 23:37
	Hi Bkyachts, Sounds like you know the boat I'm referring to because you had some specific opinions. Thanks for all you said, except comparing the 371 to the 370. That just makes me envious. I like the Hanse and am still considering it as I look around, but I'm beginning to see there is no comparison to a Hunter (especially), Catalina, Jenneau, or Beneteau. Again, thanks. GS

371#241 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 26 May 2009 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote 371#241 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 March 2010 at 13:47
	I am having a new bigger hybrid self tack / genua being made for 371 as the original self tack has proved to be somewhat ineffective. Together with water tank in bow the boat is much of the time very heavy at bow and this seems to effect the already poor performance of the self tack.



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