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These are wonderful photos, Panos! I bet you had a ball when they were taken.

Congratulations, by the way!

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Hi Johan, i just noticed u were from sweden too. i live in stockhoml myself. I am planning to circumnavigate the globe solo and non stop. on the Hanse 630e / or 540. What has ur recommendation been with the hasne? do u recommend it?


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Hi Panos., in case u did not get my PM. In your opinion, would you recommend the Hanse 630e for a solo non-stop circumnav ardound the three capes?
s it safe and reliable? does the yacht length make any diff (compared to going with a smaller 540)
is it easily handled by a single person.

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Hi,
I have not tested my boat yet. Tomorrow I leave for Greifswald and hopefully I will test sail my 630 in Wednesday. Until I can answer your question I will need at least one year. Sorry.
People have circumnavigated the globe with much smaller and less sophisticated boats, so theoretically you will be able to accomplish your goal even in a Hanse 370 or even smaller. Boats resist usually much better than the crew, so I don't fully understand your question. IMHO if you are not a very competent engineer you would have much better chances with a small boat that you can handle without electricity . Even a small electrical problem can lead to a major catastrophe in a 630, which depends heavily on electric winches and pumps to sail shorthanded.
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Hi Panos, thanks for the answer.

Im still trying to understand if the larger length of the 63 will have any advantage in the heavy seas of the southern ocean.

I would like to have a manual backup system, incase all electrics fail. With regards to my electrics, i am planning on having a backup system as well as a third solar system.

With regards to placing the order, I am looking at Jan / Feb.
How much time did it take you from  Defining specifciations to Hanse to Actual delivery of the yacht?

(when I spoke to the dealer, he said it took them  8 weeks to produce a yacht)


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Originally posted by oceanbluesail09 oceanbluesail09 wrote:

Hi Johan, i just noticed u were from sweden too. i live in stockhoml myself. I am planning to circumnavigate the globe solo and non stop. on the Hanse 630e / or 540. What has ur recommendation been with the hasne? do u recommend it?


Greetings fellow Stockholmer,

It sounds like an interesting idea to circumnavigate the globe solo and non-stop. I am curious to know why you choose not to have people aboard and seeing places? (It reminds me of the song that goes "I joined the navy to see the world, what did I see? I saw the sea, I saw the sea...)

As for Hanse, I think it's as good as any other boat for the purpose, if you look at a new boat. On the second hand market you will probably find boats more suitable for long distances at sea. Modern design tends to be aimed at a comfortable life in ports as opposed to older designs with, for example, long keels.

If you browse through my previous posts you will see that I have had a number of issues with my boat. It's taken me almost three years to get the boat in a proper shape and there are a few issues remaining. Who will be your dealer if you buy a Hanse?

Johan

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Hi Johan,
i spent last year rowing across the atlantic from spain to antigua, it took me 106 days alone :) this time its solo sail :) sailing non-stop with a crew is of course quite a social challenge. I prefer to do this solo, i like the challenge.

I did have a few replies saying that to modify a production boat is quite expensive, Here is one I quote

"Buying any production boat means you are paying a large fee for marketing, service, brand recognition, tooling, fancy interior furnishings, and styling.  Lowest on the list are the sailing qualities and construction of the basic structure.  IMO one would be making a big mistake (financial among other things) to modify a new production boat for such a voyage.  None of the boats mentioned are intended for such work, why not spend less for a design and structure actually intended for such a voyage?"

Im not sure if the above is applicable to the hanse.
Yet, to design and build a new 60ft boat from scratch is going to be very expensive and it will also take a lot of time. I checked with a few designers such as Owen Clarke and we were looking at about Eur 2 million to start with...
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Hi Panos
              how are things progressing with your boat.
looking forward to hearing first sail ect...
                                                  Richie,
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