Gennaker Furling systems

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   Am exploring options for Furling gennaker for my 2013 - 445Anyone have experience?
Prefer system easy to use with minimal crew

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Dani56 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 07 May 2019 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dani56 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Gennaker Furling systems Posted: 11 September 2021 at 11:59
	Am exploring options for Furling gennaker for my 2013 - 445 Anyone have experience? Prefer system easy to use with minimal crew
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Matt1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 10 March 2019 Location: Hamble, UK Status: Offline Points: 727	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 September 2021 at 20:13
	I use my north sails furling genneker on my 418 when singlehanding. Haven’t got myself into too much trouble yet ;) it’s remarkably easy to furl and my line doesn’t even come all the way back to the cockpit
	Hanse 418 #64 EmBer. Hamble, UK

S&J Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 30 August 2014 Location: Perth WA / Med Status: Offline Points: 1371	Post Options Post Reply Quote S&J Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 September 2021 at 23:15
	I have an Elvstrom Furlstrom supplied by Inspiration Marine on my 458. Probably about 90m2, about the same size as the cruising chute (with snuffer) I had on the 385. But this sail gets used much more frequently as it can be furled so easily for gybing or just when no longer required. It does need to be furled carefully (tightly) if you want to leave it up when sailing with the jib, but in moderate wind this isn't an issue. I'd definitely recommend something on a furler for limited crew. I haven't ried it single handed yet but don't think it would be too much of an issue an issue, and much easier than using a snuffer on the foredeck. Mostly I sail with inexperienced crew. My furling line does come to the cockpit and I recommend this if possible. Edited by S&J - 11 September 2021 at 23:15
	H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising

Breathe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 17 July 2018 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote Breathe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2021 at 03:45
	Matt, Is that one of the North Helix gennaker’s? They look like a good solution. If yes, then what sailing angles are you achieving with the sail? I would love to hear some first hand experience. Apologies to the OP, but a down wind sail is also planned for my 418. Key requirements for me are ease of handling with a crew of two and the ability to run deep down wind. If the sail could also come with the holy grail I would be very happy! Gordon

415 Singapore Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 23 September 2013 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote 415 Singapore Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2021 at 06:41
	Hi, we have a Furlstrom on Night Train, very useful sail especially when short handed, but as with any gennaker or asymmetrical spinnaker, running deep down wind doesn't work. We find 150 degrees is optimum, although in really light conditions goose-winging works better than gybing downwind. All the best Paul
	Paul - Night Train - 415 #136

Matt1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 10 March 2019 Location: Hamble, UK Status: Offline Points: 727	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2021 at 06:57
	Hi Gordon, sadly no, mine isn’t a Helix. I think North introduced that as, or just after, I ordered mine. If I had my time again I’d go for that as I’ve heard great things about them and it should be lighter without the torsion rope. Mine is 87sq m In contrast to S&J my leach can start to unfurl and flog when coming onto the wind if I haven’t furled it tightly enough. This is mainly when singlehanded as I need to simultaneously furl and maintain tension on the sheet which isn’t always possible. Could be the way North cut the shoulders on mine. As Stuart says, easier if you have the furling line led all the way back to the cockpit ;)
	Hanse 418 #64 EmBer. Hamble, UK

Alain & Anne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 13 December 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 562	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alain & Anne Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2021 at 17:15
	We have been using a Karver 2.5 since the very beginning of our circumnavigation in 2008. A very serious racing gear, but a small diameter! In fact I did not notice the size issue when I started using it, but 13 years later I feel it a bit hard! Maybe one of the two of us is getting older
	UHAMBO 430e#004 White hull-teck deck-Yanmar 55hp-long range cruising OCC Our blog: www.uhambo.fr

MrPotatoHead Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 08 April 2021 Status: Offline Points: 95	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrPotatoHead Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 January 2022 at 23:23
	We went with the Profurl Spinex 5.0 based on our sailmaker's recommendation.
	Hanse 458 #126



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