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Admirable 
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 Topic: outboard motor bracketPosted: 27 October 2011 at 16:38 |
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I would be grateful for any advice on where l can buy a bracket for holding the outboard (Honda 5hp) on the pushpit of the 470. The ones l have seen in chandlers are a bit basic (plywood or white plastic which don't look good or fit).
Also whether anyone has experience of a crane hoist installed near to the above for ease of handling the outboard from the boat to the tender and back. Whilst the outboard has lived happily in the huge lazarette for the last two seasons, hefting it in and out might be the reason l have a bad back! Currently in Sth France so Accastilage Diffusion are my local chandlers but could buy in UK and ship. Any help appreciated. |
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Roddie1952
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Posted: 08 November 2011 at 14:19 |
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I had the same challenges on my 301 - none of the available brackets would fit the pulpit. I ended up making my own out of 4 pieces of decking held 'back to back' (I needed two pairs to get the required width) and drilled through with a 25mm bit to clamp on using SS coach bolts. I also fabricated an aluminium protector to slip over the top and to take the motor's thumbscrews. I also was concerned about (a) my back and (b) dropping my outboard over the stern. The solution here was more straightforward. I attached a 14mm snatch block to the end of the boom (there is space to clip it below the outhaul roller without any interference) and fix a rope to the outboard motor sling which a crew member can hold while I manhandle the motor off the bracket and on to the tender. The snatch block also doubles as part of our MOB recovery system. It might be possible to use this on other Hanse models.
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Posted: 10 November 2011 at 09:23 |
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The outboard bracket we made ourselves from 2 pieces of 20mm polypropylene routed out for the rails then bolted together counersinking the heads. Edited by Tigger - 10 November 2011 at 16:16 |
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Posted: 11 November 2011 at 16:13 |
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Thanks Roddie and Tigger. Both helpful and if l may, i will use the photo to ask a stainless steel fabricator to make up the crane. The polyprop bracket looks good and l'll source the material and make one up the same, it's a neat job.
I have a MOB hoist from the aft end of the boom but it's too cumbersome for the o/b. Cheers Philip |
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Posted: 11 November 2011 at 17:33 |
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Hi Philip
Following on...we found that a double tackle block was still hard work so we made it a triple. Hard to see but there is a cleat welded to the hinge section to tie off and we added two fixings for a block at the top of the post and one half way down so we could run a line to the electric winch. Works great with the outboard but have yet to test if it is strong enough to use for MOB but it might be..... |
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Posted: 14 November 2011 at 17:29 |
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I didn't like the "crane" approach and felt a lot of them are overkill for something as light as a small outboard. I also wanted something that was removable so it wasn't in the way for racing.
So, I've used this product:
Extremely easy to install (4 small holes and screws). A bit of adjustment needed on some line lengths and it was done... I used 2 removable pins to attach the main piece to the small brackets that screw onto the transom. This facilitates easy removal.
Cheers
Steve
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Posted: 14 November 2011 at 20:30 |
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Hi,
With my previous boat I was using the boom for this job. I used the (not used) third reef line and a block to winch the outboard up and down. The only problem was that I had to lower the outboard before installing the tent. |
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Posted: 01 January 2012 at 20:47 |
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This installation is good for a 20 hp 4 stroke 75 kilos and 3.3 meter dinghy with aluminum floor zodiac 55 kilos This goes 35 knots and is powerful enough to push the 470 at 5 knots. the structure is 10k € dinghy and motor 6k€ The motor stays on the dinghy at all time and is watered in less then 3 minutes. Taking it up and attaching properly 10 minutes For navigation with winds over 25 knots I attach the motor to balcony. Happy new year to all the boat can be viewed in Marseille 
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Posted: 10 January 2012 at 20:22 |
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I mounted a single davit - made for dingies. With this I Columbus hoist The engine (15 hp) turn it out and lower it down to the dingy - without any assistance. (i even have the spare one which i did not use for sale.
Got a Hanse 461. I also made a bracket of teak. Nice looking and well functioning. I van send you pictures if you want. Otto |
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Posted: 15 January 2012 at 16:43 |
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Thanks to all for your good advice and as usual there is more than one solution to every problem!! I have bought a Plastimo crane which l will mount on the starboard quarter. It swivels so extends over the transom for operating the hoist for lifting the o/b on and off the dinghy. I will also fit it so l can easily detach it if necessary. I have also got hold of a nice bit of hardwood (similar to teak) which i will cut to size and drill to fit the pushpit rails. I will bolt together to make a 40mm sandwich and hopefully this will look smart. I liked the idea of the polypropylene but couldn't source any at a sensible price. So, my solution is very like Tigger's suggestion and we'll see how we get along with it next season. We will be leaving Canet (MYSC) where we are over-wintering in May and travelling east along the French coast then Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily etc. BTW, i am replacing the through hull fittings and seacocks this winter. Sunboy a 470e in Australia (2007) bought from UK and sailed there last year, has suffered a failure of the fitting under the forward berth and the damage has meant the insurance company have written the boat off. Better to be safe .....! Best wishes to all for a happy new year and good winds. Philip
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We solved the problem for lowering our 5hp Honda by having a hoist produced by our local stainless steel guy in Spain. It has a hinged arm that folds back when not in use and it is also removable for being stored in the lazarette. Since the photo was taken we have added 2 more blocks on the upright so the line can be taken back to the electric winch. It makes it so easy and safer than lifting it by hand.