575 Questions from potential owner

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   I am considering building a 575 and have been doing my research on various systems.   I visited the factory in Greifswald a few weeks ago, took a lot of notes, and asked a lot of questions.   Its a really impressive operation but I do have a few areas of concern and I'd like to ask the owners out there what they think:
The Fischer Panda generator is mounted in the engine compartment in such a way as to have almost zero access to the impeller or belts.  Normal generator maintenance seems like you have to perform it at a 90 degree angle.    If they just mounted it so the impeller side faced forward and not into the bulkhead aft it seems like it would be far easier to work on.   Has anyone got any experience with this issue?   Has anyone done work on their generator and found it not a problem?
The thru hull setup is a Marelon thru hull with a bronze seacock on top of it. I've no experience with Marelon but am concerned because I've always had bronze to bronze.   Compounding this,  I read the owners manual a few days ago and found a cryptic line saying "all thru hulls must be replaced every 5 years".    Really?   This seems hugely expensive.   Why?
Anyone have any comments on the above?
Rick
S/V Black Diamond
Newport, RI. 

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Black Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Black Diamond Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 575 Questions from potential owner Posted: 11 December 2016 at 20:11
	I am considering building a 575 and have been doing my research on various systems. I visited the factory in Greifswald a few weeks ago, took a lot of notes, and asked a lot of questions. Its a really impressive operation but I do have a few areas of concern and I'd like to ask the owners out there what they think: The Fischer Panda generator is mounted in the engine compartment in such a way as to have almost zero access to the impeller or belts. Normal generator maintenance seems like you have to perform it at a 90 degree angle. If they just mounted it so the impeller side faced forward and not into the bulkhead aft it seems like it would be far easier to work on. Has anyone got any experience with this issue? Has anyone done work on their generator and found it not a problem? The thru hull setup is a Marelon thru hull with a bronze seacock on top of it. I've no experience with Marelon but am concerned because I've always had bronze to bronze. Compounding this, I read the owners manual a few days ago and found a cryptic line saying "all thru hulls must be replaced every 5 years". Really? This seems hugely expensive. Why? Anyone have any comments on the above? Rick S/V Black Diamond Newport, RI.
	Rick S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI

Mtf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 29 June 2016 Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mtf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 December 2016 at 20:25
	You might want to look at the problems we had ... http://www.myhanse.com/volvo-d3-engine-failure_topic9860.html The location of the generator made it very awkward to do this job.

StavrosNZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 24 October 2014 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 581	Post Options Post Reply Quote StavrosNZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 December 2016 at 02:00
	Hi cant comment on the generator sorry but can on the thru hull and ball valve fittings. The ball valves, elbows and hose tails are not bronze as you suspect but are in fact brass, i would ask the make and material type for the synthetic thru hull fittings, these should be glass filled nylon, i suspect the Hanse ones are made by Plastimo or the like and are Polypropylene. As part of buying almost all the production brand boats you should factor in a replacement of the thru hulls and valves. European regulations state these only need to last 10 years and as such all manufacturers use sub standard materials, pages have been written on this forum about this subject. Its shame Hanse dont bite the bullet and go to Tru Design glass filled nylon for everything and simply do it right first time, they cost no more than the brass ones. Glass filled nylon thru hulls, elbows, ball valves and tails will last the life of the boat, wont seize, wont suffer electrolysis or corrosion.
	Stephen 2010 H400 #691, Auckland, New Zealand

Tripilot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 03 February 2016 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 52	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tripilot Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 January 2017 at 03:41
	Hi Rick, I replied to your post a bit earlier about commissioning so may be too late about the generator. We stamped our feet very hard with a Hanse as we did not want the FP generator. We went for a Cummings Onan. In doing that we sacrificed the port head and turned it into a utilities room incorporating the washing machine as well. The Onan is a seriously good machine but it is very heavy. However, it now leaves loads of room in the engine room and maintenance on the Onan is fairly straight forward.
	Live life as if it were your last day ;-)



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