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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote P&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 September 2019 at 12:16
Hi Bruce,
Do you know where your dealer sourced the stainless steel frame as I would like to purchase one for our 418.
I live in Sydney
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Muriel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 September 2019 at 12:27
Hi Peter,
No I don't.  Windcraft just did it as part of the Commissioning process back in April this year and really only talked about it at handover.  I think they designed and made it themselves, but can't be sure.  It was about the same time the reports had come through of multiple burnouts of starter motors and they were just taking precautions to remove all risks of someone accidentally leaning on the button, which they felt was a bit exposed.

If you email Windcraft Service I'm sure they can clarify for you.

Where about in Sydney are you?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Antsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2019 at 05:52
My starter has just failed / Burnt out.  I thought this only happened to other people.  Haven't had a problem until last weekend.  They are going to fit a controls guard but I don't think it is caused by that
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Hi touch of grey. 
We had the same experience with our 418. Our  startmotor has been replaced twice. First time it didn't start at all, without any signs of burnings whatsoever. It just went broke. Second time we were just a few minutes on our way when we noticed a burning smell. Turned out that the startmotor died again. Yanmar told us that its probably a cable problem but they have  to investigate. Do you have already new insights?
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Hi GoodCompany,

my new motorstarter has kept up good since the replacement. It's not a Hitachi starter (originally used by Hanse) but a more affordable imitation. So far so good. The mechanic doing the replacement could not find spark marks, cable damage or other reasons that could have cause the failure. Last week the local Yanmar service mechanic did the motor service and looked at the starter situation as well. Could not find a definite root cause either.

There are three hypothesis:
1. someone accidentally pressed the 'start' button while the engine was already running, the starter failed to disengage and consequently it burned.
2. The starter failed to disengage after I started the engine and during the 1,5-2 hours running at 2500 rpm it managed to survive, after increasing rev's to 3500 it burned up.
3. The cable/lug moved somewhat cause by waves/swell and touched the next connector, despite we didn't find spark marks.

My follow up actions:
1. we install a protective ss cover over the motor panel buttons to prevent accidentally pressing any button.
2. can't do anything about this. After replacing the starter we opened the motor area when starting the engine to listen for confirmation that the starter disengaged and slowed down to zero revís. I can't hear it from the cockpit. Since the event the current starter had no issues and it built enough trust so we lately stopped this verification.
3. Hanse uses very large cables, heavy and difficult to bend in a way it clears the other connector well. Since there are several other, smaller, cables connected to the same connection, the 'outer' lug is over the barrier between the connectors. Thus when that cable/lug rotates, it may make contact with the other connector. To reduce/avoid this risk, I'm contemplating to bring the various smaller cables together in another way and then connect these with only one cable to the motor starter. That way we reduce the number of lugs on one starter connector. 

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