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Swanji 
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Joined: 28 March 2012 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 348 |
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 Posted: 17 February 2013 at 09:47 |
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Hi Panos
Thanks for sharing your experience. I find it interesting that you no longer value the traveller as you once did. If I remember correctly, there was a time when you felt that having a traveller in the cockpit was an essential and that a distant second prize was to have one on the coach roof. Any other configuration was a floating caravan. :)))) Your experience though of using the kicker and the mainsheet to achieve a similar effect is music to my ears because we have the Hanse bridle system of sheeting on the coach roof. This season, I am going to turn the self tailing silver thing on top of the winches to face the stern, route the jib sheet and mainsheet to the genoa winches on the coaming as I have been doing and use the kicker far more than I have done in the past. Maybe I don't need a pad eye in the cockpit or a traveller at all. As I see it, the traveller on the coach roof would allow you to sheet the main in to the centre line which you say you are achieving via a barber hauler system in light winds. The other point is that with the self tacking jib, there is no longer a need to get the boom right back to the centre line. Yeoman mentioned in one his posts that the coptimal,position for the boom with a self tacker was about 10 degrees off centre when sailing close hauled which can be achieved without a traveller. Edited by Swanji - 17 February 2013 at 09:52 |
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Nidri, Levkada, Ionian, Greece Hanse 350 #7, SY Evolution, standard keel, 3YM20 sail drive, 3 cabins, cherry wood interior, teak decks, feathering prop |
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Swanji
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Posted: 17 February 2013 at 16:31 |
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Hi All
On our H350 with factory fitted standard self tacking jib, we found that the boats performance suffered in light winds meaning anything less than 10 knots. The factory fitted Dacron self tacker from North was smaller than spec 24.5 m2 versus 28.5 m2 and it had lost its shape particularly on the leech. We have replaced the self tacking jib with another self tacker but this time in laminate with a larger roach supported by 3 vertical battens. The new jib is 28.5m2 and has been supplied by Quantum. We are hoping that this change will improve our light wind performance significantly. To improve our off wind performance, we will be using a barber hauler system with toe clamps onnthe toe rail combined with blocks to get a better shape. We have also changed our 2 blade fixed prop to a 3 blade feathering prop from Kiwi which will also make a big difference probably more than the new jib. The new Hanses as I understand it have their masts positioned further aft, thereby increasing the fore triangle and Hanse have optimized the self tackers both in tems of size and in terms of shape to improve light wind performance. Based on the comments so far, it seems that this experience is not consistent across the range of boat sizes offered. The opinions expressed by the reviewers in magazines are hopefully independent and are formed after comparing different brands. |
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Nidri, Levkada, Ionian, Greece Hanse 350 #7, SY Evolution, standard keel, 3YM20 sail drive, 3 cabins, cherry wood interior, teak decks, feathering prop |
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Johan Hackman
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Joined: 24 August 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 4361 |
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Posted: 17 February 2013 at 17:05 |
That sounds like fun! Will there be any beer on board?  Johan |
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Idelfix Too
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Joined: 13 November 2011 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 140 |
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Posted: 17 February 2013 at 17:29 |
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As offered previously I would be very happy to do a MyHanse test review of the latest Hanse models as I think this would be a great addition to the forum. Count me in too Phil Edited by Idelfix Too - 17 February 2013 at 17:29 |
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Wild
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Joined: 18 March 2010 Location: Turkey-Greece Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Posted: 17 February 2013 at 18:05 |
There still a big difference between a german coachroof sheeting, fixed in the middle of the boom, and having the mainsheet attached at the end of the boom on a fixed point without a traveller ,like on the Hanse 630.On our 545(coachroof german sheet) it is not easy to get the main close hauled( even 10°) with the combination of mainsheet and boomvang, and barberhaulers with a short handed crew are only useable in light winds.A free cockpit is the only advantage of this system without a traveller in the cockpit IMO
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