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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Johan Hackman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 21:28
@Robert: I am flattered that you found my pictures inspiring. Tell your wife that the Hackman family had a wonderful time at anchor eating lunch in the sun, waiting for a ship that would break the ice. My daughter still talks about the "orange boat".

@Chris: Every post on your way to becoming Admiral counts.

@Gary: Sorry, the track stops were fitted by my dealer. I recall seeing a picture at this forum of another Hanse that has them fitted so I pass the question along. I also think that Hanse UK sell them but their web store seems to be closed.

Johan

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 09:29
Dear All....

No matter what, the track stops are essential, if you don't have em, get 'em. One of the reasons I don't use the self tacker offshore is that I got caught in a chinese gybe when the auto pilot (Britney Steers) had a brain fart and dropped her bundle on a BIG clear air wind change and the jib sheet car took out the bracket at the end of the traveller. Fortunately it all went back together again in one piece (Humpty Dumpty actually got back on the wall for a change...). After the event I asked the occasional Hanse owner's question - "why did they make it like that?"

One of my less salubrious days at sea, please learn from my mistake.

Chris

P.S. Johan - you must have trained your daughter well - with mine half of the contents of the plate would be mixed up with the sheets and halyards on the deck...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brightside Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 10:58
Hi All.
Can a deep fin keel yacht with little forefoot (front part of the hull underwater) Heave-too?

Has anyone had sucess Heaving-too and if so what sail arrangement did you use, what fore-reaching speed (sailing slowly to windward) or downwind drift and angle to the waves did you achieve?

To practice Heave-too is on my list of 'things to do' this season, so advice will be welcomed.

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Mike
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TAIMA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 13:43
I guess you can heave too. The Hanses are built almost like little sailing dinguies and I remember from the past that we heaved too on most of them (470,Flying Dutchman,Star etc.) inbetween races . I have never tried it, never had a reason but will make the test as soon as I can.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 23:29
Hi Mike,

Heaving to is easily achieved even in the modern generation of production boats. It is not the hull design that allows you to heave to, rather the balance between the centre of effort of the sails and the centre of lateral resistance created by the keel - getting that relationship right is the trial and error bit.

Noting that Hanse's tend towards the light end of the scale and that they have a high aspect ratio rig, you need to experiment with the best sail settings for your boat. In our 411 I have identified that at 15-20 knots two reefs and about 60% jib with the wheel lashed up to windward works. In 25-30 knots with three reefs (I have a deep 3rd reef in the main in lieu of a trysail) and about 30% jib she sits quite happily also. Over that wind speed I tend to sail off the breeze with a small amount of jib only as the boat seems to ride more comfortably under way. Hove To we tend to fore-reach at about 2-3 knots (at most) across the breeze.

Hope it helps,

Chris
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