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Bjørn, very interesting to hear about your experience in Greifswald, we did take delivery th 22. of April and they then did not know how to solve this. I did not have my gennaker at that time so it was not a priority then.

In yesterdays regatta we just made a rope around the anker-roller (the black, rubber wheel in the middel. Not at all a good solution. We did have 15-18 knots of wind and where doing 70-80 degrees so it was heavy pressur on the anchor-roller but it did not flex as I could see. I guess it might when you put a hold in one of the sides. Well, I dont like this solution and have been talking to my dealer how says that J&W, have told Hanse that the same solution as the 370 and 400 whould not be strong enhough on the 320 and the 350, therefore they did put on an anchor-roller that is designed to take the pressure.

I did take my 350 up from the sea today, next week we will fix the epoxy-primer and antifouling. In that case I discovered today that Hanse dont except VC17 because it contains to much cobber and therefore it is a riske for metal-components on the boat, espesially the aluminimum rodder and the saildrive. Well, a dissapointment but I have dropped my plan to use VC17

One thing that was good to know, thinking about the result yesterday, is that the boat did have some speed-limiting growth under the waterline. I have discovered that it has been a bit slower under engin at the same revs the last two weeks. Since we did sail side by side with all the other boats before we got our problems when taking down the gennaker makes me belive this is a fast boat;)


Edited by bjoris - 21 May 2008 at 23:00
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Br00tus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2008 at 18:40
Hi all ...
 
I rechecked with Hanse UK today and the bow roller is approved for mounting the Genaker. Hanse UK were informed by Germany.
 
 

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Thank you Br00tus,

That’s good to hear.

It would be very kind of you if you could explain in more detail how you mount your gennaker to the bow roller. You mentioned a small hole, but I didn’t really understand which hole you meant.

Is it a hole in one of the side walls of your bow roller?

Can you see this hole in Conundrum's picture?


Edited by bjornludvigsen - 22 May 2008 at 20:08
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Hi,
 
U remove the pin holding the anchor and use the pinhole or u attach the gennaker downhol roller directly to  the pin using a short rope. Although it is approved by Hanse I don't particularly like the solution.The boat will sail better with the wind from left.
The pin and hole are visible in Conundrum's picture just under/in front of  the anchor "DELTA"  inscription.
If U feel like experimenting and the wind is not strong U can attach it on the anchor itself(on the round bar connecting the two "cheeks"). The further in front the better it sails. But I still don't like the setup. I definitely prefer the classic attachment on the forestay bracket.(Also visible in Conundrum's picture ).
 


Edited by panos - 22 May 2008 at 21:27
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bjoris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2009 at 10:04

According to the Norwegian dealer there are two types of bowroller, just one of them are designed to handel a gennaker. Mine that flex quite a lot when stepping on it was not designed for a gennaker. I have no got a Selden GennakerPin... I`ll be back with pictures. I have not tested it jet...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Junker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2009 at 14:38
Bjoris,
a bow roller that flex when you step on it??? Unless you are very heavy, I would be conserned about this. What tho you think the froces are when at anchor in heavy wind? (or when you hoist the ancor by a winch?)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote coriolis2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2009 at 18:56
We are flying the Genn from the Anchor roller, the stainless mount wall thickness is 6mm and more than strong enough to hold the Genn and board the boat when needed. Compaired with a 400 which is also moored in our harbour, our anchor roller is at least twice as thick.
Was a liitle PO'd when I dicovered the Genn pin (connector) was not mounted on our boat, now I'm very happy with the robust fixture.
Theoretically mounting the Genn a little to Port should not be ideal, but in practice you won't know the difference.
We are flying the genn. on A Karver KF1 single line roller.

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Finally I remembered to take pictures of the gennaker PIN. As you can see Junker the Anchor roller has very thin walls and I agree it is just not good enhough. I think it might bee possible to end up with damages even using it just with the anchor...

Coriolis 2: Take a look at mine, I guess yours are completly different? This one bends when you step on it, not extrem but to much...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by bjoris - 26 January 2009 at 19:41
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gran Onada Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2009 at 20:53
Seems like this is a common problem, in mine the bow fitting for the gennaker pin is not there, so I bought the gennaker package and have the pin, but nowhere to place. I am waiting for a solution from the Spanish importer.
 
Anyhow, I can not understand how Hanse can make such big mistakes.
 
By the way bjoris yours is a very good solution.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Conundrum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2009 at 09:10

This is our bow fitting after being on a moorings for a few months. A good example of the Law of the lever at work. Don't mind the rope, it attaches on to a steel cable. To which we have two more heavy ropes attached, in an attempt to spread the load!



Edited by Conundrum - 27 January 2009 at 09:14
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