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    Posted: 21 February 2020 at 19:28
I'm looking to NOT add davits for a dingy in favor of storing the boat on my forward deck.  Has anyone been able to do this on a 415 without getting in the way of the jib when under way?  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 415 Singapore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2020 at 06:02
Hi, totally agree with you about davits, we have an Achilles inflatable which is 2.65 m long and has a rated capacity of 380 Kg. albeit that we have had five people in it at times. When we know we are going to use it frequently, we store it upside down on the foredeck with no problem at all. Longer journeys, it is small enough to deflate and store in its bag. From memory you could probably go up to 3 m long without any problems with the jib, but we didn't need a bigger dinghy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2020 at 08:26
Good to hear Paul.  I got myself a new dinghy last season and have been mulling over how to store it.  I looked at davits at the Southampton boat show but apart from the expense I don't like the look and would probably want to deflate the dinghy for longer offshore passages anyway.
I'll try it on the foredeck!
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As alway, this information is greatly appreciated. Happy sailing all

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Here are our thoughts and what we do.

We have a 418 with a Zodiac 285 Fastroller.  It lives inverted on the foredeck when on her mooring or in a berth.  Pulled backward into the selftacker track area and far enough back, it allows our front hatch to be fully opened for air circulation if sleeping on board.  The rear hatch in the forward cabin can also be opened inside the upturned inflatable providing a sheltered environment for allowing air movement even in heavy rain.

If we are sailing, we either turn it right way up and lift over the side with our spinnaker halyard and then tow it, or move it forward about 60cms so the bow is just short of the anchor locker hatch and resecure to side rails. The jib quite happily clears it for sailing and self tracker works as normal.

For long ocean passages, we intend to deflate and store below.

We use a floating ski rope as our towline.  The towing bridle is permanently attached to tow points and the ski rope clipped to the towing bridle with a snap hook.

We have a light weight permanent rope bridle made from a length of the ski rope, attached to internal lifting points and can launch or raise on the spinnaker halyard with ease.  Takes about 5 mins from upside down on deck to towing position astern or from stern to secured on deck.

One person drives the winched spinnaker halyard and the other guides the inflatable over the lifelines and unclips the halyard.

If we need to use mechanical power rather than the oars, we will install our Suzuki 4 stroke which lives on a bracket on the stern of our 418.  After lowering the inflatable and tying it to the forward or mid cleat, we drop it off the halyard then the halyard is walked to the stern, attached to a harness around the Outboard, winched up to lift it off the stern rail and then walked forward holding the supported outboard clear of the sides.  When reaching the side stays, the reduced angle on the halyard has lowered the outboard down to almost the correct height to be dropped straight onto the back of the inflatable so only requires minor easing of the halyard to position it perfectly.  The reverse process is used to return the outboard to its secured location.

Pros.  No heavy lifting for a couple in their 70ís and a secure method of launching and retrieving the inflatable and the outboard with minimal time and fuss or risk of losing over the side. No davits to obscure the view or block stern access and keeps within the drawn lines of the boat.

Cons.  Having already connected upright dinghy to halyard, a 2 min pause is required once under way from a marina berth to raise it over the side and lower and release on the water to clear foredeck space.  If going back to marina, we usually lift to the foredeck before we get underway from last anchor spot.  When on deck, can impede immediate access forward to anchor locker or bow, while stepping over securing lines. Dirt can accumulate on deck under the inflatable between uses, but a bucket of water and the scrubbing broom soon fixes that.

All in all, we are happy.
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Great approach Bruce, we are a couple in our late 60ís and have been thinking about using this same approach to enable getting a larger dingy and motor.  Right now we save a 230 cm dinghy and 2.3 hp Honda.  Easy to lift by myself but small and limited in space, speed and comfort.  Your approach would allow us to get a bigger dinghy for our Hanse 415.  

What size motor have you paired with your 285?  Is your tender an air or hard bottom?  With just two of you, I imaging one is in the dinghy near midship while the other walks the motor forward the side of your 418 and does a handoff in order to return to the winch to slowly lower the motor to the other?  

Thanks, and hope to hear from you.

From Paros Greece,

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