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Pzucchel
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Posted: 16 November 2024 at 08:03 |
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Thanks eveybody. I did have offers with fibercon, and it's marginally less expensive...but when you look into the offers, it's true that the weight of the sail (let's talk in g/m2 for example) is also lower: to give a scale 10% less price = 20% less weight.
We may argue that the dyneema component makes all these sails extremely durable and strong, and they would all be equally fit for the purpose. But if that's not the case, it is a difficult choice essentially based on "brand". I have 5 offers on dyneema based sales that i can present anonymised, prices without IVA (TVA): the three columns are main sail, jib and the sum of the two.
the minimum prices are for the lightest material (hydranet 380 and fibercon 9.65). If i remove that highest and the lowest offer, the three remaining ones are:
They are based on hydranet 433, 433/483 (heavy jib), and fibercon 10.65. You can see by yourself that prices are high, and they swing almost by 100%. Difficult to dig into pros and cons, being the "quality" difficult to quantify...they always claim theirs are the better quality, of course... As a comparison, Boatoon offers the following - with TVA: the difference is more than 3X...
TTS1326 Shop price 6950,00 and estimated delivery data is 5 weeks TTS2211 Shop price 5550,00 and estimated delivery data is 5 weeks This is not what they call blue water Dacron, but is more expensive. Edited by Pzucchel - 17 November 2024 at 08:54 |
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 16 November 2024 at 08:07 |
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Hi Leon! is it fibercon pro 9.65 or 10.65?
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Persephone
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Posted: 16 November 2024 at 20:49 |
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I had Elvstrom Epex sails originally and now have North 3Di Ocean 700. Epex are a molded laminate much more like 3DL than 3Di. Dont judge the longevity of 3Di on Epex. I have about 6000 nm on my 3Di sails and they are still like new. Theyre also much easier to flake into the stack pack on the boom.
By the way, the Hydranet main shown earlier in this thread looks rather draft aft, typical of an old sail.
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Pzucchel
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Posted: 17 November 2024 at 08:57 |
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to tell the truth, i have 20,000NM on my original Elvstrom FCL sails...and they are still alive, despite a lot of tropical sun! But they are delaminated and i wouldn't tempt the devil. I would prefer to save what's left as backup emergency sails...
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Posted: 17 November 2024 at 16:14 |
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Hi Piero, the quote I got was for a Fibercon 10.65 main. But, I would be using my existing Selden battens, cars and slides. That was fine with me.
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