An there goes the ignition key
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Printed Date: 27 March 2026 at 03:41
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Topic: An there goes the ignition key
Posted By: coriolis2
Subject: An there goes the ignition key
Date Posted: 11 December 2016 at 18:43
Finally no ignition key anymore. This summer I'd invest 9 Euro's in two IP75 Stainless 'Mini In The Box'switches and by-passed the ignition key. Works like a dream ;-)
------------- "Coriolis" H350 #045 (ex Waarschip 570 #? 1987/1992, ex Waarschip 28LD #7 1994/2007) |
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Posted By: cptgood
Date Posted: 12 December 2016 at 08:53
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Nice. If I were you I would invest 50 euros on this panel (25 dollars +25 delivery) http://www.seaworthygoods.com/panelvisor.html Very nice and protective.
------------- Hanse320 - Hull#127/08 - Wheel - ST headsail - Yanmar 3YM30 - SD20 |
Posted By: echoofwight
Date Posted: 13 December 2016 at 12:19
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Interesting, my Hanse is 2003 and has no ignition key, Beneteau I had before had no Key. I have always been happy with this as you can't start the engine without unlocking the boat and turning on the power. However, I do think a key is a good idea ------------- Steve. Hanse 341 Echo of Wight, . Deep draft and rudder, white hull, Single aft cabin. Raymarine instruments. Raymarine radar. Garmin AIS. Wheel Steering, Portsmouth. |
Posted By: Ulrich
Date Posted: 14 December 2016 at 12:15
...allready on the to do list... the top button is clear : Ignition(Power) on/off the lower button : to start only ? or to start and stop ? what about preglow ? saw a thread that the Yanmar doesn't have any glowplugs. Not sure about mine, never used them, because of sailing in warm area  Ulrich ------------- DIONYSOS / H350 (2008) 2 cab. |
Posted By: alidal
Date Posted: 14 December 2016 at 14:00
There is a heating-element in the air intake on my Yanmar 39 hp from 2010 ------------- Hanse 400#655 |
Ulrich wrote:Posted By: coriolis2
Date Posted: 16 December 2016 at 20:18
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Ulrich, the bottom one is start only, I still use the stop button on the Yanmar panel. Never glow sailing in 3-30'C. Best regards, Rob ------------- "Coriolis" H350 #045 (ex Waarschip 570 #? 1987/1992, ex Waarschip 28LD #7 1994/2007) |
Posted By: mojoraven
Date Posted: 28 January 2019 at 09:52
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Thanks coriolis2,
It was very
inspiring. The design meant that someone had to hold the key in the pocket
while sailing or keep the key in the ignition with the risk the key would fall
out of the ignition and wash overboard. Either options are not good, if you
were in a situation that you needed to start the motor immediately. Buying a
new keyless frame from Yanmar is not really an option as the cost is ridiculously
high. However, thanks to a bit of 3D printing, and voila a brand new keyless
motor interface
Picture of the 3D model
Picture of the finished product See more here https://www.boatpanel.dk" rel="nofollow - www.boatpanel.dk |
Posted By: plattgatt
Date Posted: 28 January 2019 at 17:34
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Perfekt !! ------------- 370#641 "aqua d`or" |
Posted By: Ulrich
Date Posted: 08 February 2019 at 08:53
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Agree any chance to set up a small prototype production for 350 owners ? First order is in ! Uli ------------- DIONYSOS / H350 (2008) 2 cab. |
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 08 February 2019 at 09:29
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Where did you buy these watertight control buttons ? They look good! ------------- Frank |
Posted By: Catfan
Date Posted: 08 February 2019 at 10:09
| I'd be interested in this solution as well! |
Posted By: mojoraven
Date Posted: 13 February 2019 at 16:26
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Uli,
I´ll be happy to do a little production if there is interest. You could buy a panel from Yanmar, but it cost between £850-£1000!! I´m playing a bit around on a version 2. Which will have a glass cockpit replacing the old odometer using a 5" LCD screen (I´m one of the unlucky that have a faulthy enginehour meter). But let´s see...
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Posted By: Ulrich
Date Posted: 16 February 2019 at 10:21
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Hi Thanks for offering the file to get it printed by myself. Anyway I have the same problems with the engine hour meter. I also planned to exchange it including some gadgets for the anchor winch. Playing around with a cam to control the chain as it sometimes stuck when getting the anchor up, due to the small chain storage and the location of the winch. How did you plan to get the hours counting? Ignition on or from the alternator? How will you drive the 5" display, micro controlled or Rasp ? I would be interested in sharing experience. Best regards Uli ------------- DIONYSOS / H350 (2008) 2 cab. |
Posted By: mojoraven
Date Posted: 17 February 2019 at 08:18
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I´m using
Arduino as a controller. I´ve made an assembly with a LCD shield. It´s a very cheap
and fairly easy solution. The timer is a bit tricky as, measuring from “power
on” is easy but power off means there is no time to write it to the eprom. The
counter in the old VDO measured from “power on” and a capacitor held the power
long enough to write the hours to the eprom when switched off (the reason for not just
overwrite the data on the eprom every minute would be the limited number of rewrite
a eprom have).
To avoid including a capacitor, I programmed it such that the counter starts when power is on and the oil and alternator indicator is on (this is always the case when just before starting the motor). And switching the counter off when the state comes back i.e. that the stop button have been pushed. That give me time to write the new data to the eprom on the Arduino, before switching off the power. I have the same issue with the chain as well. Let me know if you come up with a solution. Actually, one of the reason for including the 5” glass cockpit (beside looking cool) was that it could include other features. E.g. I was thinking of installing a rev counter to measure the meter of anchor chain put out and displaying it on the display. Loads of other stuff could be included as well. But, big but, all this takes time, sigh…. And sorry for this becoming more of an engineering than sailing thread |
Posted By: JohannesL
Date Posted: 24 February 2020 at 22:34
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Hi Mojoraven, This looks perfect! My type B panel is broken after somebody accidently stepped on the key. Any chance that this design goes into production? Is the offer to share the file for 3D printing still valid? Thanks, JohannesL
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Posted By: Ggerrit
Date Posted: 25 February 2020 at 17:52
I had the same problem, but made new panel . ------------- H400 2008 2 cabin |
Posted By: Ggerrit
Date Posted: 26 February 2020 at 14:24
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and with the foto ------------- H400 2008 2 cabin |
Posted By: JohannesL
Date Posted: 26 February 2020 at 16:37
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Looks great! How did you make this? Flat panel or 3D printing?
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Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 26 February 2020 at 20:34
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that is great! Which parts did you use? All new components? ------------- Hanse 312 MJ 2004 - Hanse 370e MJ 2007 |
Posted By: Ggerrit
Date Posted: 27 February 2020 at 13:07
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I ll made it from aluminium. and all new components. Ill look for the part list this week-end to share this. ------------- H400 2008 2 cabin |
Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 10:08
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Any update on this? ------------- Hanse 312 MJ 2004 - Hanse 370e MJ 2007 |
Posted By: mojoraven
Date Posted: 11 April 2020 at 09:55
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Hi JohannesL Thanks for your message and sorry for the slightly delayed reply. Sorry, that your panel got broken. I’ve made a production of 10 and I still have 4 left, so if you are still interested I can send you one after Easter. You can see the prices in the link below. https://boatpanel.dk" rel="nofollow - boatpanel.dk If you are looking for a full refurbisment for the tachometer, I’ve been able source a replacement LCD for the hourmeter and replacment red LEDs instead of the bulb ones (which keeps dying). I don’t have these in stock, though. But I can re-order if there is any interest in this. Happy Easter to all |