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Topic: Faldleder til Hanse 400e

Posted By: jensenflemming
Subject: Faldleder til Hanse 400e
Date Posted: 09 March 2017 at 20:10

Hej,

Sidste sommer mistede jeg desværre min faldleder under sejlads på Øresund.

Jeg hørte en klonk klonk lyd da den ramte masten og så klonk på dækket og så plop!

Det er det stykke hardware som sørger for at styre faldet så det ikke snor sig omkring forstaget når man furler ind/ud på forsejlet.

Min båd er en Hanse 400e fra 2005 med Sparcraft mast og Facnor rulleforstag.

Er der nogen der har erfaringer med hvilket besl*g der sidder som standard?

Er det et selden?

Et sparcraft?

Er det bare så nemt at man køber det rette besl*g og går i masten med 4 popnitter - boremaskine og popnitte tang??

Er spændt på at høre fra jer :)

Replies:

Posted By: JesperB
Date Posted: 10 March 2017 at 10:01

I take this in enlish instead of swedish.

I have a Hanse 400e from 2006 with Sparecraft rig and Harken furler. When I bought it (in 2014) the deflector was missing and ther were only leftovers from the rivets (popnitar). But I did't have any problems with halyard rotating when furling. However, during the first winter I mounted a new Sparecraft deflector (a "ring" on a bracket, probably not what you had since yours fellt of). When hoisting the jib for the first time I was not able to get the tension in the luff since the luff was to long and the shackle stopped at the deflector . I then removed the deflector again. I have not during the 2 seasons had any problems with the halyard rotating around the forestay.

I have now ordered a new jib and had long discussions with the sailmaker if I should use a deflector or not. Their answer was that it't not needed if the distance between halyard exit and swivel is short enought (like 100-150mm). If it's longer I would go for a strop (between sail and swivel) as described in your other post - then you can hoist both sails with "long" and "short" luff.

I would gues that the root caus of your deflector failing might be due to that your distance between swivel and halyard is to short and gives high force on the deflector, I would guess that's my boat had thas issue from the beginning as well.

When my father during the 80s installed a furler on his Comfort 30 the rigger forgot the deflector. During a race whe got the halyard rotating around the forstay - but since we were leading we used the Genua winch to unfurl the sail. What happend? The forestay went off! We were lycky that the rig had 4 lower shrouds and was able to stand up without the forestay!

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Jesper

Posted By: Jens
Date Posted: 10 March 2017 at 18:57

Det er bare en helt almindelig bøjle der skal bruges. Meningen med bøjlen er at få en vis vinkel på faldet i forhold til forstaget så faldet ikke trækkes med rundt når man ruller sejlet. Men som JesperB skriver, så er den ofte skyld i at man ikke kan stramme forsejlet helt op, især hvis sejlet er optimeret i højden. Jeg bruger ikke min, og at din er faldet af kunne være fordi vinklen mod forstaget er for stor, og så bliver trækket i bøjlen også for stor – og den kan trækkes af.

Normalt er der en plastrulle med en diameter på ca. 8-10 cm på toppen af forstaget der forhindrer faldet i at rulle med rundt, og så behøves bøjlen som regel ikke. Det er pos 1, halyard deflector, på side 18 i manualen:

http://www.facnor.com/uk/technical_support/technical_brochures/headsail_furlers/fichiers/notice_lslx2012_a5.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.facnor.com/uk/technical_support/technical_brochures/headsail_furlers/fichiers/notice_lslx2012_a5.pdf .

Jeg har set at nogen undlader at montere rullen, og det er vist på side 29 hvordan det klares uden. Hvis jeg bruger det originale sejl, der ikke er helt optimeret i højden, forlænger jeg det altid med et lille tov (15-20 cm), også selv om jeg har rullen monteret, og så ruller det fint. Det er generelt vigtigt for forstagets funktion at overholde det der beskrives i manualen.

Så jeg ville ikke bruge tid på at montere en ny bøjle, for det er ikke noget problem at undvære den.

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Jens
Hanse 370, #423, 2008
Three cabin