Sunken Hanse
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Topic: Sunken Hanse
Posted By: Ricky
Subject: Sunken Hanse
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 21:11
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Do anyone know what has happened at this Hanse? It happened in july 2016.  ------------- hanse 320/0044 |
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Posted By: Konstantin
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 08:53
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http://www.cataniatoday.it/cronaca/barca-vela-naufragio-15-luglio-2016.html
Something about a hole in the hull?
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Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 12:43
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So sad to see this. A sober warning to us all to be prepared for any eventuality. ------------- H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising |
Posted By: S/Y SABA
Date Posted: 23 March 2019 at 17:07
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Hi, unfortunately I know what happened as I was the owner of this once beautiful boat. We were 12 miles out of Catania on passage from Toarmina to Siracusa while motor sailing and I noticed a little water , the bilge pump came on and I switched on my extra pump. But instead of reducing the water more was coming in from somewhere. I locked all the cocks but the water continued rising. I called for help, launched the dingy and than the life raft but by the time the Italian coast guard who were very helpful arrived an hour later, me, my wife and our dog we watched our boat go under and we were helped on to the coast guard boat. After trying to think where was the water coming from, the only thing I did not inspect was the compartment behind the aft cabins. The exhaust pipe must have come off the hull fitting and it started putting the cooling water in the boat. After getting over the shock of seeing the boat go under, I still believe in Hanse an now we have a 415 and still sailing. John from Malta john.sammut48@gmail.com ------------- john |
Posted By: Ratbasher
Date Posted: 24 March 2019 at 14:17
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John Many thanks for sharing such an unusual and useful lesson from a tragic event. Of course, its one thing to sit comfortably in a chair pondering the cause and quite another to be the poor bloke having to deal with rapid flooding miles out at sea but I'm curious that the rate of ingress overcame both the bilge and a secondary pump. I certainly don't think I'd have considered the exhaust line-up as a culprit either but will now do another crawl-through to make sure everything's tight! You're right in that the aft void-space often doesn't get the attention it might require. Very glad to read that you're all back out on the water again. ------------- H400 (2008) 'Wight Leopard' Gosport, UK |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 24 March 2019 at 20:18
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Thank you John for telling us the story. What a dreadful shock. I’ll be sure to check those hose connections. Last year I had to reconnect the connection to the Vetus water lock which I had inadvertently disturbed when changing the exhaust mixer bend. Fortunately, I found the leak while testing before relaunching. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: kipwrite
Date Posted: 24 March 2019 at 21:44
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Agreed. Thanks so much for sharing this story. This area is not an area of the boat I inspect with any frequency. Will do so next time I’m aboard.
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Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 25 March 2019 at 00:01
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On delivery I found the rubber exhaust hose was not strapped along its length with the result that it vibrated and chafed against the hull. It made a thumping noise which I investigated and found lots of rubber particles even after a few days.. I am sure this would chafe through in time. I strapped the hose to restrict movement and it's been ok since then. ------------- H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising |
Posted By: S/Y SABA
Date Posted: 25 March 2019 at 10:27
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Hi, The reason why my 1 inch bilge pump and the second 1 inch extra pump were not sufficient to keep up with the water coming in must be that the exhaust skin fitting is about 2 inches which is far more than the pumps were pumping out. Prior to discovering the water coming in we were healing on to the port side for quite some time, so it was not only the engine cooling water that I had to cope with. John ------------- john |
Posted By: lukemi
Date Posted: 25 March 2019 at 12:42
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Interesting an timely posting. I spent this last weekend working on my Hanse. I arrived late Friday evening. The first thing I did was start the heat pump as it was 3 degrees Celsius. I then when about my first task of pumping out the diesel from my tank so I could clean the tank. When I stepped down onto the floor after an hour in the aft cabin I found 2 inches of water and floating floor boards. Luckily I was still in the marina and they sent over the pump out boat to eliminate the water. We then proceeded to check all the through hulls which seemed all intact. I then opened the heat pump bin and discovered one of the 1/2 inch hoses had slipped off and water was being pump into the boat full blast. We subsequently turned off the heat pump and the water stopped. Here are my observations: 1. Even though I had 2 clamps on the hose, it came off the heat pump inlet. 2. The heat pump outlet hose was also almost off. 3. My concern is why did both inlet and outlet clamped pipes fail. 4. I was going to start the heat pump and go to dinner while the boat heated up. Glad I waited. 5. My Hanse Installed sump pump was no where near capable of pumping out that amount of water. 6. I need to consider a secondary pump to backup the low capacity Hanse supplied pump. 7. Checking ALL clamped fitting is now on my maintenance list. Mike StellaMaris 370e 2007
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Posted By: Ratbasher
Date Posted: 25 March 2019 at 14:53
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Some salutary lessons from Saba and Lukemi. In both cases the standard bilge pump seems to have been as much use a motorbike's ashtray and I know from my own (comparatively minor) flood that the pump is sited quite high above the lowest point on a 400, thus delaying any warning. I was planning on siting a separate alarm at a more sensible location near the true 'lowest point' but I'll prioritise this. I might experiment next week with a deliberate fresh water flood to see for myself the rate that the pump can actually handle; the bilges need cleaning anyway. For severe flooding I'd always planned to use a line from the engine intake as an emergency pump, the same line that I already keep to route to another hull valve in case of SD inlet blockage. Of course, this relies on the engine being available with sufficient water volume and these posts have made me think again about the adequacy of my arrangements - in the safety of an alongside berth. Many thanks again to John and Mike. ------------- H400 (2008) 'Wight Leopard' Gosport, UK |
Posted By: silversailor
Date Posted: 26 March 2019 at 01:43
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I had a "water intrusion" experience soon a year or two after delivery. It was apparent that the provided bilge pump is seriously inadequate. I'm not sure that any production sailboat has a sufficiently adequate pump. In any event I added an additional, considerably larger pump system and a centrifical pump with a hose that can reach anyplace in the boat. Overkill? Maybe. But, it made me feel safer. And, I've never had to use either one in the 12 years since installation. ------------- Silversailor South Haven, MI USA S/V Legacy 2010 Andrews 28 |