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Topic: grab rails for steering wheel
Posted By: Ida
Subject: grab rails for steering wheel
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 20:44
I want to mount grap rails near the steering wheels before an accident happens. Has anyone done this already an can me give hints and fotos for manufacturing?


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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster



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Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 22:25
If you take a look at http://www.myhanse.com/configuring-my-385_topic7836.html you will see how Mark and Catherine have done this.
I recently got a quote of around £550 to have a pair made up from a company (actually the same Russian speaking Latvians who supply Inspiration Marine) in Chichester, UK.

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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising


Posted By: Ida
Date Posted: 06 December 2018 at 15:05
I´m still looking for that and found an other idea:



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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster


Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 07 December 2018 at 01:00
The contact details for the company who supply Inspiration Marine (UK dealer) with the protection bars are:

Slava Morars or Stas Svarinski
Alloy Boats and Boat Builders
+44 7576197073 or +44 7735999092
alloyboatsltd@gmail.com

They are currently based on Hayling Island, between Portsmouth and Chichester.

I have no association with them other than as a satisfied customer (they straightened my stainless steel  bow/anchor fitting after a gearbox (ok, user) malfunction put a kink in it!).

Edit:  As of late May 2019, these guys have a spare set of rails for a  385.  They received an order for one set from a German owner who had seen this thread and decided to make up two sets.  So if you want a set, make them an offer...


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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising


Posted By: Samtutuki
Date Posted: 07 December 2018 at 11:02
This is what I recently added to my 315.  Best mod ever.





And these around the companion way - second best mod ever!




Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 07 December 2018 at 17:31

These are ours from 2013 in the link provided by S&J


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Ida
Date Posted: 07 December 2018 at 17:47
Thanks, very helpfull for me.


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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster


Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 08 December 2018 at 01:37
I was wondering about the actual installation of the various grab rails because I am interested in doing this on my 385. How hard (or scary) was it to drill into the steel steering pedestals that the rails are mounted to? That part worries me! 

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Andy
Moonraker
River Dunes, NC


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 08 December 2018 at 09:40
Its easy, but I suppose the danger is once you break through you hit something inside the pedestal?  maybe use a drill with a depth limiter fitted if you have one, or just apply little pressure and take longer?

Marking the holes easy if the handles rest on the floor or locker, might be harder with Samtutuki's design although they do look very nice.  Getting the screws to lie flush requires either a thin screwdriver (because it will be up against the tube of the handle) or a flexible driver.


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Samtutuki
Date Posted: 09 December 2018 at 07:19
Before fitting my grab rails I checked with Jefa. The pedestals are made of 6 mm aluminium and Jefa themselves often install grab rails in this way.


Posted By: Ida
Date Posted: 26 July 2020 at 07:15

 



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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster


Posted By: Ida
Date Posted: 26 July 2020 at 07:18





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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster


Posted By: Ida
Date Posted: 26 July 2020 at 07:22
My grab rails are ready at least, I´m very happy with it and wonder why Hanse did not offer it. Thanks to the users who postet their fotos before an gave me a lot of suggestions for that project!


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Hanse 385 #426, "eLisa", May2016, 3Cabins, Selden Mast, Elvström FCL, Furling Main, Draft: 1,63m, Volvo D2-40, Bowthruster


Posted By: Axel
Date Posted: 25 June 2022 at 13:45
I am also interested in the grab rails. A friend of mine with a Hanse 415 had a problem with the Jefa rudder. The white aluminium box was suddenly loose on the deck. He could move the whole thing including the wheel forward and backwards. The screws were loose on the deck. Did you have made similar experiences? I have the fear that the extra force of the grab rail will make a problem. I wonder if the solution with screws only in the Jefa box is the best solution or should the grab rail also be fixed on the deck.

Greetings Axel 


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Hanse 385 #434 Nyanga 2


Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 25 June 2022 at 13:52
See Samtukti:s comments from Jefa.  The pedestal box is strong enough.  And if the box isn't 100% secure to the hull/floor you are in all kinds of trouble.  I would sort out the pedestal attachment as a matter of urgency



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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising


Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 25 June 2022 at 14:39
I'd suggest adding fixings down to the deck (inboard) and seat area (outboard) as shown in Mark& Catherine's post earlier in this subject.  This spreads the load between the deck and the Jefa housing.  Mine were sourced by IMG prior to delivery.  I'd be lost without my grab rails.  Paul 

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H345 #269


Posted By: SimonGH
Date Posted: 29 June 2022 at 02:48
Are they tapped into the aluminum?  Or can you get in there to secure a nut?
I'm trying to understand how they are fastened... 



Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 29 June 2022 at 08:36
I haven't removed any screws to find out, but my guess is that they are either self tapping or machine screws into threaded holes.  Sorry I don't want to disturb mine to find out!  
Regards Paul 


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H345 #269



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