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Topic: Leaking Fuel Tank
Posted By: blackswan
Subject: Leaking Fuel Tank
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 08:47
We have diesel pooling around the bottom of the fuel tank in the starboard rear cabin I have tied tissues round all of the inlets to the fuel tank with no evidence of leakage there. We will have to drain remove and inspect the fuel tank.

Has anyone had a problem like this and is there any recommended procedure for repair, or is it a replacement job?

Thanks



Replies:
Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 11:44
I had a problem with the diesel/water filter. When I changed the filter cartridge, I did not realise, that the cartridge was a couple of millimeters too short, so the glass-bottom could not be screwed tight enough towards the filter. The bolt was simply too long. At first (with 1/4 tank diesel) nothing happened. When I later filled the diesel tank the fuel leaked alround the gasket. I discovered this too late, and had a lot of fun cleaning the sump of bad-smelling diesel.
My solution to the problem was to place two stainless washers on the base of the bolt, so the glass-bottom was real tight with the filter. The replacement filter was an original Yanmar spare part, so this ought not to have happened.


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Freya H400 #27 (2006),2-cabin, 40HP 3JH4E, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB)


Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 12:24
This was my problem too. I think the fuel filter is much more likely to be the cause than the tank itself.
In my case, adding a fibre washer to the bolt holding the bowl onto the filter resolved the issue.

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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising


Posted By: Mark_J1
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 12:46
Not sure what era your tank is from. The tank seems to have been similarly positioned from 2005 well into 2011. However my photos in this post of the tank internals  http://www.myhanse.com/inside-of-the-fuel-tank_topic10119.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.myhanse.com/inside-of-the-fuel-tank_topic10119.html  may help you.  The tank is pretty well constructed.

Mark


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Hanse 400e "Grey Goose" Hull #31


Posted By: blackswan
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 22:34
Thanks guys, I see that you have a steel tank, ours is grey plastic.
We also suffered from debris and sikkaflex in our tank blocking the fuel flow to the engine after fitting of the heater.

Do any others have the plastic tanks? 

I guess I'll repeat the exercise with the tissues then take the tank out for inspection


Posted By: kipwrite
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 23:52
My 505 from 2016 has a white plastic tank.
It developed a leak from the sending unit gasket, that was only evident when it was completely full.
Fixed by tightening the sending unit fitting screws. Hasn’t leaked since.

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Kipwrite


Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 18 November 2018 at 08:46
Hi Kipwrite,  are you sure that the fuel tank is made out of white plastic ?

Imho the material for fuel is a multilayer black plastic tank (PE). The multilayer technology during the blow molding process prevents the diesel smell and organic components evaporation, especially at higher temperatures. I also had problems with the gasket around the tank flange, caused by overfill. I decided to only fill it to 90% and replace the crappy Hanse sensor by a drop-in interchangeable reliable magnetic fuel sensor.

White is the only approved PE food grade for the fresh water tank.



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Frank


Posted By: Koppiekrou
Date Posted: 18 November 2018 at 10:12
Hi Fendant/Frank,

Can you tell me what make and typeno. you’ve bought to change the crappy fuelgauge?

Thank you,

Frank

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291 4Ever - 341 Eternal Flame and now a Hanse 371 '05 Karma - Shoal draft - 2 cabin - 40hp - Variprofile


Posted By: kipwrite
Date Posted: 18 November 2018 at 11:32
Interesting.
My diesel tanks are definitely made from a white plastic.
I’ll check to see if they appear to be the same material
as the water tanks.
No issues with diesel smell.

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Kipwrite


Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 18 November 2018 at 12:05
@Kipwrite:   Just saw that you are based in the US. They could have different standards for fuel tanks.
                   You can mitigate the diesel smell permeation by chosing thicker tank walls

@ Koppiekrou:  I bought mine from www.philippi-online.de. The model is called TGT, it comes in several                          lengths, starting at 200 mm. You have to measure your tank height to select. An                                    alternative is www.wema.no.




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Frank


Posted By: StavrosNZ
Date Posted: 18 November 2018 at 19:51
Hi Blackswan, i also have 400, 2010 vintage, i discovered a diesel leak and traced mine back to the screw on inspection port cap on the tank itself. I have black plastic tank with approx 160mm dia screw down inspection port. The port seals on an o-ring that wasn't seating properly due to some slight distortion in the shape of the tank. I replaced o-ring with slightly over sized o-ring and applied small amount of vaseline on o-ring before refitting, no more leaks.

Also check you fuel tank sending unit gasket as well, neither of these will leak will berthed flat but will leak when sailing and healed.


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Stephen
2010 H400 #691, Auckland, New Zealand


Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 11 December 2018 at 09:37
I decided to replace the fuel tank sender on my 2016 H345 with a Wema style magnetic reed switch one, and followed earlier helpful posts to be confident of the change. I also measured the tank outside which seemed to confirm that a 250mm sender would be the right size. However - be warned- when I came to do the swap I found that the tank appears to have a indent on the underside (perhaps it is designed to go on port or starboard side? - mine is starboard) and the 250mm sender was too long to go vertically. I have now ordered a 200mm unit and will be selling the long one on the auction site in the new year.
Lesson: plumb the depth before ordering!
Good luck.
H345 Aeolus


Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 13 December 2018 at 18:01
I have a leak somewhere in the filler piping. If you overfill some Diesel lands in the bilge and stinks.
My solution is to only fill the tank to 90%, since then it never occurred again.


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Frank


Posted By: blackswan
Date Posted: 28 January 2019 at 09:42
Thanks will check those again, the present crisis is that a through hull snapped off in my hand. we are changing all of them tomorrow!!


Posted By: perry
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 09:15
A couple of points dont know how relevant in your country: Here in Europe road diesel comes with 5 or 10% bio diesel added to make it "green Diesel" this has caused some probems with degradation of some rubber fuel components and worse can with water in diesel create a great environment to grow diesel bugs which clog fuel filters. . However we use only "red" diesel for boats and my own souce gaurentee no Bio added.
Secondly my comments on plastic tanks for fresh water may also be applicable to your plastic tanks. I cant seem to link my post so paste it below:-
Originally posted by perry perry wrote:

Our 2007 H315 has SS water tank with large inspection hatch with ring of bolts and rubber gasket. This is an expensive but full proof design. I have had a number of Motorhomes which use moulded plastic tanks with a moulded screw-in inspection port, I suffered leaks from the gaskets on these as a regular problem, Vaseline on gasket and new gaskets help but not 100% solution. Leaks regularly with tamk  filled and driven on the road [not healed at 20-30 degres or jumping off waves]. Im sorry but I think someone in the design team or costing deptartment  has cheapened the design a notch too far?
Another problem with moulded tanks is they can rarely fit baffles. 200+ kg of water slopping about can create extra pressure on hatch.
Perry


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Current Yacht Hanse 315 2007
Last Yacht Hanse 301 Round GB in 2017


Posted By: kipwrite
Date Posted: 08 November 2025 at 15:25
Reviving an old thread:

My starboard tank has now developed a leak when completely full. Like others, I've placed absorbent cloth near all the openings at the top of the tank, and no leaks have been revealed. Fuel lines appear intact, no leaks seen. The spilled fuel winds up in the fiberglass sump that surrounds the tank and is contained and allows for a thin pump pick up so I can remove it. 

Aside from a potential crack in the top or side of the tank I haven't yet spotted, any ideas where else to look?

White plastic tanks, US model boat (505/2016)

Must remove the center island to have a closer look at things, but thought I'd check here first. In the meantime, I keep to about 80% full. 


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Kipwrite


Posted By: Ratbasher
Date Posted: 08 November 2025 at 16:24
The fact that it only occurs when full suggests that increased pressure could be an issue; diesel expands with increasing temperatures, perhaps by as much as 10% if there was enough variance after filling at lower temps.  In addition to obvious leak-points in fittings and gaskets, as you've a poly tank this might well flex so I'd also check all likely areas of stress.  

You can get UV-reactive fuel dye which should show exactly where the leak is coming from; I think Amazon stocks that and the flashlight.  Of course, fuel is just like water; it can come out a long way from where it originates from.

Good luck!


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H400 (2008) 'Wight Leopard' Gosport, UK



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