495 abandoned off Nova Scotia
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Topic: 495 abandoned off Nova Scotia
Posted By: kipwrite
Subject: 495 abandoned off Nova Scotia
Date Posted: 25 December 2018 at 13:51
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rescue-4-crew-sailboat-off-halifax-1.4949986 There’s discussion of this incident on other forums. Easily findable via google. Looks like another steering/autopilot issue. Terrible time to be off Nova Scotia in any sailboat. ------------- Kipwrite |
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Posted By: alidal
Date Posted: 25 December 2018 at 22:31
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http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f158/four-crew-rescued-from-disabled-sailboat-off-coast-of-nova-scotia-211485.html ------------- Hanse 400#655 |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 03 January 2019 at 13:31
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I have tried to find a few articles but there appears to be no report of any boat failures. I wonder what happened ------------- Inspiration Marine Group LTD - UK Importer for Hanse Yachts. Helping owner’s to get the best from their boats. |
Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 05 January 2019 at 09:02
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Suggests it was taking on water, lets hope its not the same issue I had. Yacht seems to be intact so whether they'll tow it or leave to take its course and locate it after the storm to bring it in. Be interesting as a manufacturer to find out. ------------- Jon B 470e http://www.norse-king.blogspot.co.uk |
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 05 January 2019 at 12:27
Vessel of Interest  ? Normally this refers to a US submarine  ------------- Frank |
Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 06 January 2019 at 22:12
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Submarine - a surface vessel capable of submerging. Hanse 495 - a surface vessel capable of surviving most conditions, hopefully all, so lessons need to be learned if that's not the case. If abandonment was due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time, for the crew that was on board, then it's not the fault of the boat. ------------- Jon B 470e http://www.norse-king.blogspot.co.uk |
Posted By: mglonnro
Date Posted: 24 December 2019 at 07:53
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Here: https://www.macleans.ca/plucked-from-peril/" rel="nofollow - https://www.macleans.ca/plucked-from-peril/ ------------- -- Mikael https://nakedsailor.blog" rel="nofollow - https://nakedsailor.blog |
Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 31 December 2019 at 20:10
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Mikael, Thank you for finding this, seems several little (or not so little), things brought about what must have been a catastrophic event for the crew. Hearts go out especially to the rescue and other crews that were out there enduring the extreme power mother nature has to offer and that we, the abusers of the planet, are re-arming her with greater power. I'm no expert, just an Engineer trained to think logically. Hat's must also come off to Hanse for manufacturing a Hull that withstood & remained afloat ------------- Jon B 470e http://www.norse-king.blogspot.co.uk |
Posted By: colinc
Date Posted: 31 December 2019 at 21:39
| But maybe not a robust enough steering gear? It seems to be the Achilles heel on this and other incidents? What do you think? |
Posted By: mglonnro
Date Posted: 02 January 2020 at 06:59
It would be interesting to get more details about the incident. The text for CE A rating (to which most modern "production" sailboats are built) goes like this:
(In the supplemental texts the exclusion is specified more exactly, to mean wind speeds below force 10, storm.) According to the article, "The winds hit 76 knots—about 140 km per hour—and the boat was “heeling rather alarmingly” amid the fierce gusts". Sustained 76 knots would be force 12. Assuming 76 knots was a 50% gust, the sustained wind would be 51 knots, a force 10. This is marginally out of the scope of CE A, so not what the boat was designed for. But this is just theoreticizing, of course. It's not known if stuff broke due to normal fatigue/having defects, or being exposed to bigger forces than it was designed for. ------------- -- Mikael https://nakedsailor.blog" rel="nofollow - https://nakedsailor.blog |
colinc wrote:Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 02 January 2020 at 11:10
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My thoughts, Any vessel that may be recovering from a knock down or just on it's side that takes a subsequent hit from a large wave, will put loads on parts that would not necessarily have been tested at this angle with this pressure in mind. Our 470e has twelve bolts holding the keel to the structural frame within the hull, our rudder, a big wing in its own right I think passes through two bearings before being bolted down. A weak point when in this situation agreed, but it didn't sink so an assumption must be made that the rudder or part thereof is jammed in the orifice preventing water ingress. As you say it would be interesting to gather any more information such as what was the repair made to the rudder mechanism in the Med. It would be even more useful if the vessel could be recovered and handed back to Hanse to be stripped back and learn what must be a note book of lessons.
------------- Jon B 470e http://www.norse-king.blogspot.co.uk |
Posted By: chillios
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 21:12
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The article never mentions the use of an emergency tiller. The repairs appear to solely be to the steering cables and autopilot. It would be great to get a more in-depth report of the failures. |