10 days....
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Topic: 10 days....
Posted By: Matt1
Subject: 10 days....
Date Posted: 26 March 2019 at 17:59
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and counting..... Tomorrow should be 9 days until we get our hands on our lovely new 418. To say I'm excited is an understatement :) we only got to sail her on our demo sail in very light airs. Would be interested to hear of any experience in stronger winds / rougher conditions. Am having a third reef applied to the mainsail whilst it's still new but won't bother with the lines etc until next season. My previous boat had a near identical, albeit shorter! Rig and she used to love going upwind in heavy airs just under the self tacking jib |
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Posted By: Muriel
Date Posted: 26 March 2019 at 21:43
| Looks like you're a week ahead of us. After crewing on 418 Breathe last weekend at the Windcraft Pittwater Rally (thanks again to Gordon and Trudy Butler), we also can't wait. Breathe sailed well in a bit of a drifter in the morning but really flew in the afternoon 15-18 knot nor’easter. |
Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 27 March 2019 at 18:56
| Thanks - good to hear. That 15-18 knots is always the sweet spot :-) |
Posted By: Breathe
Date Posted: 31 March 2019 at 03:19
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Matt, Only a couple of days to go for you now, enjoy the hand over day! One of the main reasons why we chose the Hanse was because I hoped at the sailing experience would be better than with the alternatives, so far I have not had any reason to regret that decision, they are wonderful boats to sail. By the way, Bruce is being generous about the light air sail, the boat sailed well, the skipper not so well so at times we struggled to keep her moving. Wind was very light, under 2 knots at times. On the 15-18 knot work we carried full sail, and a touch of back stay tension, and she was quick.
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Posted By: Muriel
Date Posted: 31 March 2019 at 04:38
| I think you're being too hard on yourself Gordon. Local knowledge counts a lot on Pittwater, especially in light airs, and those guys sail every week and have the race practice. Just wait till next year when there are two 418’s to give them stick. |
Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 31 March 2019 at 07:20
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Well it sounds like Pittwater is where all the action is! Yes, just 5 days to go now. She becomes ours on Friday, with the handover sail the following Friday. Can't wait, although it was sad saying goodbye to the last boat as I took her to their marina for the part exchange yesterday. I just want to get her out in a decent breeze. Although relatively lightly ballasted, it is all carried low in that bulb so I reckon she will be pretty stiff. |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 01 April 2019 at 17:26
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The 400 is relatively stiff. But it's a cruising boat first with all that furniture down below. Under 8 knots of breeze and you're waving good bye to the rest of the fleet as they leave you behind (well maybe not all of them as there will be some other heavies to keep you company). It's a great boat though, enjoy! ------------- Steve Hanse 400e, #168 |
Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 10:53
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Matt, You will be very pleased with the 418, sails like a dream, very light on helm and a great experience. Off the wind we tend to barber haul the genoa out to a block on middle cleat that is led back to cockpit but that's personal preference. Best wishes for handover! We are also in the Hamble so PM me if you want to talk 418's, you will be third one in the Hamble  Cheers, Jon.
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Posted By: Breathe
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 11:12
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Hi Tranquility, thanks for posting that, the barber hauler to the mid ship cleat sounds like a great idea. I will have to give that a try. How heavy is the gear that you are using, what size rope? Thanks Gordon |
Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 14:51
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Gordon. We just use a spare spinnaker sheet from our last boat, probably 10-12mm. Let's us know how you get on. We use this a lot off wind from my racing days. Cheers. Jon
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Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 19:30
Hi Jon - thanks for the welcome. We now own the boat :-) and she will be launched at Hamble point on Wednesday, with handover sail on Friday. She will be on L19-L20 and is called EmBer I did wonder if the pad eyes on either gunwale were for barber-hauling. Was your's out the water at Swanwick recently? Rgds Matt
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Tranquillity wrote:Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 20:20
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Matt, Good luck for Friday! Yes that was us at Swanwick😀 Cheers. Jon.
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Posted By: Muriel
Date Posted: 07 April 2019 at 21:32
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Hi Matt, Good Luck with your Handover Sail. We have one week to go. In Sea Trials at the moment and getting to the final strokes. Jon, I too was wondering about barber haulers after sailing with Gordon on Breathe a couple of weeks ago. I used them occasionally on our earlier Bavaria Cruiser 40 when going downwind but it didn't make that much difference. However, with a self tacker I can see value, both for opening the slot a bit more and for winging when running dead square, not your fastest course, but sometimes necessary. I'll await Gordon’s feedback while I fiddle with the rest of getting to know our boat. Being an old Hobie 16 racer in my younger years, I still tend to tack downwind for better boatspeed, even though one covers greater distances. I'd rather have the boat driving through the water with full sails than wallowing around, even when cruising. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere, that it's against 418 owners rules, to let your boat wallow at less than 4.18 knots. Certainly Muriel (named after my dearly departed mother and meaning “of the bright sea” in Gaelic) won't be allowed to wallow. Cheers guys. Bruce J
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Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 08 April 2019 at 21:36
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Bruce, I am sure you will be going faster than 4.18 knots Good luck for your handover next week. Jon.
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Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 10 April 2019 at 12:22
SO.... she the retro fit bowthruster has been fitted. Sidepower (and Osmotech seem to have done a great job fitting it)  She was launched today, which sadly I missed as I was in work. I've a car load of gear to be loaded this evening on my way home. I've removed the wood from the cockpit table which I've epoxy coated and am varnishing in the evenings. The Mainsail is with the Sailmaker having a 3rd reef and her GBR numbers applied and I collect that tomorrow. Then handover and acceptance sail on Friday. Want to spend some time calibrating the log and generally man faffing initially, but the temptation for a shakedown sail to Lymington for the weekend has proven too much! |
Posted By: Breathe
Date Posted: 10 April 2019 at 23:02
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Matt, Good decision regarding going for a sail! Plenty of time for the man faffing later. Gordon
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Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 15 April 2019 at 16:33
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So handover done. Nice sail to Lymington (15 miles) with one reef in the main. Am generally misjudging the turn when boat handling eg not turning early enough. No harm done, am just used to a 31' boat, so somewhat more agile because of her size. Was getting better throughout the weekend though and the last three manoeuvres were executed just fine ;-) Bowthruster is a boon and very quiet. Am loving the push button pilot too. Last boat had a tiller pilot which took some time and grappling to set up. Could have done with the second reef on the way home, but stupidly I had rigged the tackline to the 1st reef point....which I found out when trying to put the reef in. After that we ended up motoring the rest of the way rather than pushing her hard as we are trying to break everything in slowly. Loved seeing the hull windows under water and the light coming out of them at night. Helm remained light despite 25-30 deg heel and was impressed with how steady the pilot held course - nice n smooth. The trip has inevitably shown up a few teething issues but IMG are onto them. Overall, and it's very early days, she has exceeded our expectations in every area so far
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Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 15 April 2019 at 16:49
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Hi Matt1 13 years ago I changed my 32' old boat to a brand new Hanse 400. There is nothing like a brand new boat under your feet. My delivery was in june, so I guess it was a little warmer. If you need a hint where to route the three reefing lines, Martin&Rene has a solution, that works for the old Sparcraft masts. Good luck with your new family member! ------------- Freya H400 #27 (2006),2-cabin, 40HP 3JH4E, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB) |
Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 15 April 2019 at 20:32
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Thanks :-) I just made a schoolboy error with my reefing lines. All sorted now :-)
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Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 16 April 2019 at 18:14
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Matt, What a great weekend for your first sail. The 418 handling is so light and well behaved I am sure you will enjoy and soon feel very at home! Good sailing. Jon.
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Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 18 April 2019 at 21:16
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This is the reefing line system that Captain Cook mentioned. https://www.myhanse.com/single-line-3rd-reefing-setup&KW=_topic10548_post88610.html#88610" rel="nofollow - https://www.myhanse.com/single-line-3rd-reefing-setup&KW=_topic10548_post88610.html#88610 For Barber haulers, I feel it is important to control the twist of the jib downwind, so my setup focuses more on holding the jib sheet down to increase leech tension as well as outboard. https://www.myhanse.com/controlling-the-jib-downwind&KW=Jib_topic10476_post88083.html#88083" rel="nofollow - https://www.myhanse.com/controlling-the-jib-downwind&KW=Jib_topic10476_post88083.html#88083 ------------- Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland |
Posted By: plattgatt
Date Posted: 19 April 2019 at 07:43
....we are happy with you. ------------- 370#641 "aqua d`or" |
Posted By: Joey D
Date Posted: 26 July 2019 at 21:16
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other than removing the line how would I know the length of line to buy to replace my second reefing line on 2014 Hanse 415? The line seemed to have gotten chafed by the sail bag zipper. Thank you
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Posted By: 415 Singapore
Date Posted: 28 July 2019 at 06:15
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Hi Joey I have uploaded the running rigging rope lengths to the manuals and drawings section of the forum. Night Train is a late 2013 model with a Selden rig. We have found the second reef line to be only just long enough, so I would be tempted to add a little to the figure they gave in the manual All the best Paul ------------- Paul - Night Train - 415 #136 |
Posted By: Joey D
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 15:11
| Hi Paul, This is SUPER helpful! Thank you very much. Joey |