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Topic: cracks on the floor between front cabin and saloon
Posted By: boomjack
Subject: cracks on the floor between front cabin and saloon
Date Posted: 07 July 2019 at 13:56
Hi there,

My 575 shows strange cracks on the floor separation between front cabin and saloon. these cracks are starting on the bottom of the "wall"between kitchen and front bathroom all the way to the right side of the saloon.

Did any of you already exeriment this on his boat?

Thanks for your help,

regards,




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Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 01 August 2019 at 14:51
hi there,
it's curious that no-one reacted to my post. Maybe some pictures would help understand the matter and identify for other owners where the matter stands.

How do you post pictures on this blog?

thanks for your help!



Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 01 August 2019 at 17:22
To post a pic, click on the reply button to the right side of one of the previous posts. This brings up an advanced reply window with more options on the top. You will notice a tree icon, click on it and the attache pic dialog shows up. Should be pretty straight forward from there. Don't post high res (I don't think it allows it anyway) as they end up being hugs - I usually resize a photo to about 25%.

To your problem, it sounds like a similar thing I experienced on my 2007 400e. A crack developed in the lower port corner of the doorway through the bulkhead between the saloon and the v-berth. I sent Hanse pics and they ended up sending a technician to come repair it. They did a great job and claimed it wasn't structural once they investigated. In any case, I haven't had any further problems.

Steve


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Steve

Hanse 400e, #168


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 07:34
Thanks a lot!

I try so that we can confirm it s the same situation.

Best.

d




Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 08:29


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 08:30


Posted By: Gale Force
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 09:53
I am trying to figure out the placement of this problem.Do you have a pic that is zoomed out a little so that we can see the exact location of this split.
From the pics I gather that the floor boards are intact.

Regards

Duncan


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 10:06
Hi Duncan,

It's exactly between the saloon floor and the front cabin. There is a 5/6 mm difference between the 2 floors and the silicone gaskets are completely open.


Posted By: Gale Force
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 10:23
I have a 2014 575 and now come to think about it I do have a level difference between the two floors but not as much as yours I probably have half that.I am going to check next time I came on my boat in a couple of weeks time.

Regards

Duncan



Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 14:22
Ok, let me know, I'm curious since it appeared very slowly year after year, mine is also june 2014 number 080 and my dealer does not take it seriously....


Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 02 August 2019 at 17:26
That is not the problem I had on the 400e. I believe your floor is not structurally attached to the wall at that point - the silicone is only there to make it look nice. Some movement, expansion and contraction is to be expected over the years. For peace of mind, I'd send a copy of the pic to Hanse to comment

Cheers, Steve


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Steve

Hanse 400e, #168


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 04 August 2019 at 08:00
Thanks for your answer, ok i'll do this and see what Hanse's answer will be.
good sailing!


Posted By: Black Diamond
Date Posted: 04 August 2019 at 23:16
I've seen this on boats that over-tension the backstay adjuster or other rigging.  Closet/cabinet doors don't close, are misaligned, and joints like these separate.     Any chance someone cranked down the rig too tight?




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Rick
S/V Black Diamond
Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161
Newport, RI


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 07 August 2019 at 12:52
No I don't think so, I've always been very conservative with rig tension.
I'm putting together a complete file with pictures and dates and will send it to Hanse in Greifswald.
Perhaps they already had this issue?


Posted By: Relentless
Date Posted: 29 October 2020 at 12:47
Yes, I have the same situation.  I've been noticing it get bigger over the last season.  

I haven't looked to see what is causing this.....any new info?




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Rob
s/y Relentless
2015 Hanse 575
Hailing: Newport, RI
Currently: St Maarten


Posted By: boomjack
Date Posted: 30 October 2020 at 13:57
They never replied.... and the situation did not become worse.
I have had 2 experts on board to try understabding the problem.

One of them said it's the rig tension that had once been too important and the other one gave me another explation which make sense...

the center counter mold is separated from the front and the rear and in my case, is not linked the front one.

the foam and glue they use to fix all this is sometimes badly applied resulting in some occasion in sections with not enough density.

After a while when sailing with strong sea, all this goes down and takes his final position.

And can also be due some too much rig tension.

His advice was "make a mark and check this regularly, if it stays the same, then the mould won't move anymore".

And so far, the cracks did not grow bigger.

and I never had any problem with doors and closets....

At this point that's all I can say, but i check regularly.



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