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Topic: Euro spec 575 questions
Posted By: SVZara
Subject: Euro spec 575 questions
Date Posted: 08 July 2019 at 05:16
Hey guys,

I have some questions about euro spec 575's electrical system.  Black Diamond has already answered my questions regarding US spec boats, but there is a big chance I am going to buy a euro spec 575 and wanted to understand the electrical system.

1) Is there a single shore power cable.running 32A, or are there two shorepower cables running 16A (or 32A each)?
2) Which systems run off the generator?  Which systems DO NOT run off the generator?
3) Which systems run off the inverter?  Which systems DO NOT run off the inverter?
4) Are the outlets running 230v or 110v?

Any other details you can offer on the euro spec electrical system is much appreciated.

Cheers,

-Marc




Replies:
Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 08 July 2019 at 09:29
Marc,

In answer to your questions- based on our 2014 575 with 230V 50HZ system-

1. two 16A  inlets are provided one for aircond and the other general systems.
2. All systems run off the generator. You may need to watch what you are running because you may have a great power requirement than the generator can supply depending on the options you have onboard. I think there are now two generator options 8KVa and 10KVa. We have the 10KVa.
3. In general, the items which run off the inverter are - GPO, Gallery, TV, wine fridge. All other items do not run off the inverter - eg Air cond, washer dryer, water heater.
4. All outlets (GPO) are supplying 230V 50HZ and the standard socket is the European 2 " round" pin.
5. Any appliances supplied as options are 230V 50HZ eg coffee machine, washer dryer, dishwasher, TV etc.
6. All items onboard can be run off shore power with the aircond having its' own 16A inlet. Again you may need to juggle what equipment you have on so you don't overload the shore power.
7. There is not an amp meter supplied for either the generator or shore power so you can see what amps you are drawing.  

If you are eventually considering taking your 575 back to the US I would think your resale value would be less if your boat was 230V 50HZ. I would expect it to be much more difficult to sell. It is not a simple option to change a 230V 50HZ set up boat to be 110V 60HZ boat. The cabling, colours and sizes are different for the EU/US systems, plugs are different but easy to change, the generator could be changed over but at a substantial coast I would think, inverter/chargers would need to be changed, not sure about the aircond, certainly components like the RW supply pump would need to be changed and possibly the FCUs etc would need to be changed. Some items like the TV may be "multi voltage" and would be OK. 
If you were taking your 575 back to the US I would get it built to the US spec. You would need to bring any appliances with you from the US for a Europe delivery and "holiday". This way all your onbaord systems and plugs etc would be 110V 60HZ. Your only issue then would be shore power which could be handled with having a step down converter (230V to 110V) and a frequency converter 50HZ to 60 HZ) fitted. You can get a "shore power conditioner" but these seem mainly aimed at larger vessels (super yachts) and are large and heavy and expensive. These "conditioners" are designed to be able to take on any voltage/HZ/phase combination and supply your boats requirement. These do a lot more than you would be after. The pain of having to deal with the shore power issue whilst in Europe would out way the problems of having a 230V 50HZ boat back in the US. Just my 2 cents. Maybe some other US based forumites have some input!


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.


Posted By: SVZara
Date Posted: 08 July 2019 at 20:12
Our long term plan is to have a 575 that works everywhere no matter in US or abroad. We are in the used market, not new. 

We are OK with keeping the inside of the boat euro spec.  Our laptops can function on either.  Finding euro appliances is not difficult in this modern age of the internet. 

We have been discussing our electrical strategy with a marine electrician and he has proposed that we can use use some large capacity inverters and independent chargers (US/UK) which can bridge between the US spec shore power and Euro spec interior needs which would allow the frequency and voltage conversion to happen and power all 230v@50hz systems.   I wanted to get an idea of exactly how the euro spec boats are wired so I can convey that to the engineer and we can spec/est a solution more accurately. 

I think there is some value to having a yacht fitted to work around the world but resale isn't really on our radar.  Resale is less of a concern than something that works for us.  

Thanks for the responses.  Truly appreciate it.  

-Marc


Posted By: Lyn
Date Posted: 01 July 2025 at 21:38
To re-surface an old thread on a topic I'm facing.  This boat was built for the EU (230v 50Hz) with (4) Mastervolt Combimasters.  When the boat was moved to the US and sold to a previous owner, he had a separate 125v 30Amp shorepower installed with its own Combimaster 12v/3000W/160 Amp (also a few US outlets installed with a smaller breaker panel).

At the moment, that 110v Combimaster is receiving 110v in (checked at the Combimaster) but it is not passing through to outlets, nor do I think it is charging though the charging light is on.  Oh, and my generator decided that it wants to overheat, so that doesn't help me much.  With a power hungry boat, I'm trying to figure out my options.

1.) I'm going to replace the (I think) failed Combimaster, but that will take a few days
2.) I didn't have EU shorepower cables when I took possession, but I've got the Marinco 32A unterminated cord coming.   But that doesn't seem to solve my US problem.
3.) What do EU boats visiting the US or Caribbean do?




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Jon
S/V Lyn
2017 Hanse 588 | Hull 19 | Deep draft | 150hp | 220v & 110v systems | Lithium House Bank


Posted By: Lyn
Date Posted: 02 July 2025 at 15:33
To post an update, I read all kinds of facts and opinions about the feasibility of making your own adapter plug.  I couldn't discern which of the louder voices was correct, so I reached out to Arcadia for a very respected view.  Crediting the rest of this to him with many thanks for preventing me from reckless foolishness!

There really is only one proper way to prepare the EU 230v / 50hz boat for US 250v / 60hz shorepower and that is an isolation transformer.  While it is technically possible to produce a cord that does what you want, it will short circuit the shorepower breaker.  While the short circuiting could be bypassed, it would carry enormous risk to the boat and its grounding.  I don't even want to mention it in case someone decides to try.  Don't do it: for your safety, the safety of your boat and all its appliances, and the safety of your marina.

I will look into the isolation transformer and will post an update with what I decide.


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Jon
S/V Lyn
2017 Hanse 588 | Hull 19 | Deep draft | 150hp | 220v & 110v systems | Lithium House Bank


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 02 July 2025 at 16:21
Also, be aware that the Hanse installation includes TWO isolation transformers at 7 KW each. One for the domestic loads and one dedicated for the aircon. They are both fed from the same 50 amp inlet. To take it another step, the entire boat is then running at the 240 volt level and only the wall outlets are then stepped back down to 120.

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 02 July 2025 at 16:23
Even the inverter charger and the generator are 240 volt. So I’m not sure how that would figure into your plans going forward.

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: 32mike
Date Posted: 03 July 2025 at 16:46
Jon,
I realize that you have a bigger boat with more electrical load but my 458 was delivered with a US setup. Mine is very similar to what Leon describes. I have a standard US 50 amp shore power plug which sends 240v to a Victron 7000w isolation transformer which then passes 240v into the boat. That 240v is split to two different busses. One feeds 3 air conditioners, a circulation pump and an aux breaker which are all 240v and are all only available on shore power or generator. The other bus sends 240v to a 240v MasterVolt Mass/Combi inverter/charger which passes through 240v to the panel for icemaker, dishwasher, washer/dryer and water heater. That 240v out from the inverter also goes into a Victron 240/120 transformer which sends out 120v to the electrical outlets, microwave and TV.

I have been considering replacing the Mass/Combi and Victron 240/120 transformer with a single Victron MultiPlus II 2x120. That unit takes 240v or 120v in and will pass through 120v always and 240v when shore or generator 240v is available. Essentially that would replace two boxes with one. The only negative I see for me is that the water heater would not be available on battery power which would be fine I think. The water could alternately be heated by running the engine and heating it through heat transfer or running the generator and heating it electrically. You may have other considerations like a washer/dryer to be powered which, in this scheme, would require the generator running.

I’ve been learning a lot about my electrical system lately and in particular, the wiring diagrams.


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Mike
S/V Dulces Sueños
458 #087
Tampa, FL


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 03 July 2025 at 20:50
Mike, you’re spot on with your description. The only twist is that Hanse has installed an interruption relay on the hot water heater circuit. This way, even though the heater is on the same buss as the inverter circuits, it will be disconnected when on battery power. In support of this design, I would say that the 1200 watt heater load for a couple of hours would be a bit much for the standard battery bank.

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 03 July 2025 at 21:02
one comment on the heater: I am probably in a special situation because today we had 42 degrees inside the boat , but 1200W for the heater is not necessary in most of the conditions. So I have put a dimmer that I can regulate , allowing to choose how much power I direct to the heater: it is very convenient. As Leon clarifies, not on batteries...unless you would move it it to the other bus (like I did for the aircon).

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Hanse588#55


Posted By: 32mike
Date Posted: 03 July 2025 at 21:10
Thanks Leon, good to know. Well, for me, that removes the only negative of switching out the inverter - the water heater won’t work on the battery in either case.

Is that relay “K1” on the diagram? I’ve gotten better at interpreting these but it sure would help if there were more labels. I’m having a hard time remembering the symbols from college EE class back in 1980😵‍💫.



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Mike
S/V Dulces Sueños
458 #087
Tampa, FL


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 03 July 2025 at 21:13
That’s the one. The coil section of K1 is on a previous page near the shore power / generator selector switch. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY



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