415 Code 0 Sail
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Topic: 415 Code 0 Sail
Posted By: Aussieangus
Subject: 415 Code 0 Sail
Date Posted: 02 March 2020 at 03:49
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Hi Guys, Has anyone had a code 0 made for the 415 i have to get a new sheave box installed for mine as the spin halyard is too close to the forestay and wouldnt allow furling. Im in sydney australia if anyone has any ideas of how to do it or how they did it any photos would be great. Im interested in the size of the sail mostly and performance plus if you needed to instal a new box. ------------- Sydney Australia GODS COUNTRY |
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Posted By: Jeremy
Date Posted: 02 March 2020 at 07:51
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Hi, I have one and hoist it off the spinnaker halyard which I upgraded to 12mm dynema. It's not the mast head one. Its the halyard just above the jib halyard on the mast. My code 0 is in a sock and made from a different kind of cloth which allows it to be scrunched up instead of rolled, yet still maintain its shape on the wind. (We had this made more for offshore sailing rather than racing). In terms of performance in light wind 5 to 9 knots we can point to around 35 apparent. Stronger breezes we're at around 40 degrees apparent upwind. My general observation with the code 0 is that we sail at the true wind speed. ie in 5 knots of true wind we're doing 5 knots. This would be with apparent wind somewhere forward of the the beam. Our sail is about 88sqm and I wouldn't go any bigger than that. Remember if your hoisting off your fairlead you'll need a bob stay. Otherwise you'll lift it out of the deck. Hope some of this helps.... Jeremy
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Posted By: 415 Singapore
Date Posted: 02 March 2020 at 12:56
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Hi, we have a furling carbon Code 0 which is about 85 sq m. Very versatile sail although we have never managed to get as close to the wind as Jeremy. But as Jeremy says you definitely need a bob stay for the code 0. We have never had a problem furling this or our Furlstrom gennaker, our spinnaker halyard is probably 30 cms above the forestay but has a multi directional eye below it which would reduce the clearance to the forestay. This eye is very important otherwise the sideways loads the code 0 imparts way exceeds what the halyard sheeve is designed to take. Attached is a poor photo I took after a lightning strike a few years ago All the best Paul  ------------- Paul - Night Train - 415 #136 |
Posted By: Aussieangus
Date Posted: 03 March 2020 at 23:33
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Thanks for your replies gentlemen. I think i need to talk to another rigger because the one im talking to says i cant use the spinniker halyard as its too close to the forestay and would not spin properly but both you guys seem to say its ok. my 415 doesnt have a masthead halyard but the rigger says i need a new one installed. I understand re the bobstay. And the idea of the multidirectional eye is a really good one maybe this will elimnate the percieved problems my rigger had. Your replies really helped.
------------- Sydney Australia GODS COUNTRY |
Posted By: Breathe
Date Posted: 04 March 2020 at 10:15
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Hi, Talk to Windcraft, based on Pittwater, they fitted something similar to Paul’s when my 418 was commissioned. PS. Got to love you Sydney people thinking that Sydney is Gods Country. Keeps all you deluded people down there over crowded, frustrated, generally cranky and away from the paradise of Lake Macquarie. Gordon
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Posted By: Muriel
Date Posted: 04 March 2020 at 11:01
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And that would be why Gordon has spent half this year in either the Whitsundays or Pittwater. In fact, aren't you in Sydney right now? The only reason to stay in Lake Macquarie would be the Swansea channel is so badly sand silted that once you get in you can't get out without a 2+m tide. Just jokin' Gordon. Enjoy your stay in Pittwater Paradise. Did you get your passport stamped and your Visa renewed? Cheers Bruce
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Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 04 March 2020 at 16:14
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I would think about a 2:1 halyard. If you put the fixed end above the sheave box you might get along with the existing Spinnaker Sheave. I have 1:1 on my 370 and I would go for 2:1 next time. If you use 10mm that should be fine and if you extend the Dyneema with a Polyester for the non loaded areas you could safe money. ------------- Hanse 312 MJ 2004 - Hanse 370e MJ 2007 |
Posted By: Tranquillity
Date Posted: 04 March 2020 at 21:01
| In Sydney's defence the SailGP event just put on looked excellent, with perfect conditions and great racing. We watched from our 418 on the edge of course last years UK Cowes SailGP event and watching the Aussies hitting 50 knots in a cloud of spray across the finish line was something special. |
Posted By: Aussieangus
Date Posted: 05 March 2020 at 09:03
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Breathe, i did speak to windcraft as my boat is very close to their office, they just advised me to get a $6500 Northsails Code 0 and said they know what to do which they do aand have done a few 415s and 418s and have seen some photos which look great but i need to talk to their rigger to see if he thinks he can do it off the spinniker halyard. And i was up at Lake Macquarie a few weekends ago for the boats bits bonanza sale for the classic boat shed- i was very impressed with the joint to say the least! The 2:1 halyard sounds interesting i'll enquire about that. What about the eye, i think that will really help reduce the forces on the sheve box for the spinniker but its just about whether there will be enough room for it to spin. Thanks guys all this is valuable advice. Angus- PITTWATER- GODS BATHTUB! ------------- Sydney Australia GODS COUNTRY |
Posted By: silversailor
Date Posted: 06 March 2020 at 01:08
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North (and Doyle) have developed a "cableless" Code 0. Is that what you are looking at? ------------- Silversailor South Haven, MI USA S/V Legacy 2010 Andrews 28 |
Posted By: 415 Singapore
Date Posted: 06 March 2020 at 09:20
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Hi Angus, I hope you are talking AUS$ not USD. The sailmaker who made our carbon racing jib, cruising main and jib and most recently our asymmetrical spinnaker, all of which we are extremely pleased with suggests USD 2,250 for a cruising code 0 using Dimension Polyant CPP 300. 3.25oz polyester with a Marlow prodrive 13mm torsion rope. If you are interested in discussing it further I can pm his details. If you look in the Racing section you will see our latest sails. I have no commercial interest in this, after a few years it was good to find a good sail maker with excellent service All the best Paul ------------- Paul - Night Train - 415 #136 |
Posted By: Matt1
Date Posted: 06 March 2020 at 11:51
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Wow! You got lucky with that sailmaker! I got a very competitive deal from North in the UK for £3,600 which included a profurl and torsion rope on an 88sq m 1.5 oz Norlon G zero That's about $4,600 US ------------- Hanse 418 #64 EmBer. Hamble, UK |